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Feedback required: Rule change regarding showcasing mods not for 5Mods



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    It's now Friday and I want to thank everyone for their feedback over this period. I'm currently extremely busy but I wanted to pop in here to say that I am going to go ahead with this rule change. I do not have time to update the relevant stickies/site rules (if any admin or moderator would like to do so, please go ahead). I'm making a slight change to the rule to avoid confusion and the final rule is as follows:

    Users should only advertise, showcase or otherwise promote their work and/or services if the product of that work is fully intended to be released on 5Mods. To clarify, timed exclusives for Patreon backers are acceptable, but you must intend to (and actually) release your mod on 5Mods after that timed exclusive period is over, and that timed exclusive period should be no more than 1 month. If you are unsure of whether you can or will upload your work to 5Mods once it's finished then do not showcase it until you are sure.

    In regards to setting up a separate section on the forums where people who are paywalling their work can still showcase and discuss them, I will admit that I have some serious trepidation in regards to allowing this. First and foremost, I am very confident that at least some of the work that is being paywalled is being done so illegally -- users are buying models from other websites which they are then turning into mods for GTA 5 that they are charging money for, without the license for that paid model allowing them to do this. To be clear; if the license of the models you're paying for does not specifically allow you to earn royalties from your work, you should not be charging for them in any way, shape or form. Worse still are people who are ripping assets from other games or software and are charging money for them. This is most definitely illegal.

    On a personal level, I don't have a horse in that race and ergo I'm not particularly fussed. Having said that, 5Mods is now my responsibility and if 5Mods is seen to endorse or promote this sort of illegal (or even potentially illegal) activity then that puts 5Mods at risk. That's obviously not OK. I can tell you now that we most definitely do not allow anything like this on Nexus Mods, nor would I.

    Trying to work out which users are creating legitimate, legal paywalled content and which users aren't is a moderation and administration quagmire that I'm not sure we really want to be touching in any way, shape or form. We're talking moderators having to get access to paywalled mods, finding the source of assets, acquiring the license agreements for said assets and assessing whether the author actually can paywall their content or not before we let their work be showcassed on 5Mods -- for absolutely no gain for 5Mods itself. I'm really not sure it's worth it.

    5Mods itself currently has a lot of this questionable content on the site, some of which likely can fall under fair use, some probably not, and when we receive DMCA takedown notices we action them instantly and respectfully. The legal issue is amplified by many orders of magnitude when actual money is involved and it's something we really should not be touching unless we want to risk losing everything because of it.



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    @FoxtrotDelta said in Feedback required: Rule change regarding showcasing mods not for 5Mods:

    @Dark0ne cool so if we have license and permission from websites like hum3d and squir turbosquid.com and they agree for us to make mods and distribute as paid content , we can show case em here right ?

    No, sorry Foxtrot, that's not what I said at all. Please re-read what I wrote.



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  • @TobsiCred yes that's why I deleted my post - i posted in anger and then stopped and thought about it.



  • @TobsiCred As a user but not a modder I just appreciate this is a place to hang out and grab mods and tbh I agree with not having paid mods here and trying to keep things above board and legal but I have no beef with anyone so I'll try and keep it that way. Apologies again for my deleted comment :)



  • this site promotes "piracy" since most content is ripped from other games, like all the sports high def cars,planes from simulators,peds from online or console games,and in this day and age models are most of the time done by artists rather then being from the studio.
    I'm surprised we haven't got on anyone radar.if we got, the only thing left on this site would be retextures.



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  • @Virus-T1000 said in Feedback required: Rule change regarding showcasing mods not for 5Mods:

    @BladeRJ The reason game developers haven't tried to take action against mod sites is because we share mods for FREE. Since GTA3 to GTA IV all mods were free but since GTA5 has come out, some people have been abusing the system trying to sell Game Developers property and artists property which is where things go sour. Piracy is one thing but selling stolen property is another!

    There is no such thing my friend, for the models be on this site they were "ripped" in other word, hacked/reverse engeneering to be extracted from the game code with tool assistance.....the models are property of publishers and intelectual property from artists that either sold or leased them under contract exclusive to the game dev. If someone take tvs from a store and put on the street and you happen to find them and give them away, that is still a crime becouse you are in possession of stolen goods.

    If someone actually build a model and i saw only a few here doing that, then i would endorse the site suporting them.



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  • @Virus-T1000 "Copyright". Most of the models here on this site are taken from games such as Forza, PCars, and Assetto Corsa. I've had this discussion with @Dark0ne before, and we both agree that if any of those publishers come to this site, we're dead, and there is nothing we can do about it. Because be it free or not, we are still using their copyrighted works against the permissions provided from their EULA.



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    @Global-Moderators
    Is the new rule, in effect since last Friday now, implemented and added in the site's rules?



  • @Virus-T1000 Maybe you are right, but that still doesn't mean that what we do is legally sound. Whether they want to take us down or not, we're still not in the safe-zone, legally.


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