script hook v
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i have updated my game and have been waiting to download the latest version of scripthook how long does it take usually for shv to update after the new gta update
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I never understand why whole community is depending one guy.
Is this Alexander Blade guy like an old Rockstar employee that has codes to alter the game that no one else has? I am not a computer engineer so all these things like a magic to me.
I mean, I hope god gives this guy a long life without any trouble. Or else half of the mods on this site is going to be trash without his work.
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it does seem that way im new to modding so i dont realy no much but pretty much everything
i have requires his shv
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@cbm26 @sportcar Yeah, you don't have idea about programming to know the hard work to do for each game update. To offer a clear example, is like search needles in a big haystack, because each new game update includes new programming, edited and deleted methods in the game source code and to find them is necessary more than a clinic eye (hours, days or weeks of code parsing until find all modified code lines, add to the Scripthook library and lots of tests fixing compatibility issues with .NET users until everything works fine). Alexander Blade is not related in any way with R* or T2, he is just a talented programmer who helps us by creating a bridge between our ideas and the game and exists lots of programmers skilled to do this in the world, but only he and Crosire are interested in the modding offering us their free time to build scripthooks for GTA V.
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@MetaGTA said in script hook v:
@cbm26 @sportcar Yeah, you don't have idea about programming to know the hard work to do for each game update. To offer a clear example, is like search needles in a big haystacknail, because each new game update includes new programming, edited and deleted methods in the game source code. Alexander Blade is not related in any way eith R* or T2, he is just a talented programmer who helps us by creating a bridge between our ideas and the game and exists lots of programmers skilled to do this in the world, but only he and Crosire are interested in the modding offering us their free time to build scripthooks for GTA V.
You get me wrong. I am not asking for fast updates. I am wondering why only one person working on the most crucial thing. As a noob first think I thought this guy had some codes that no other devolopers have here. If I was a mod devoloper I would be reluctant to devolop anything for GTA V, because if alexander blade is out, that means your whole work is trashed.
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Amen to that!
I mean, I hope god gives this guy a long life without any trouble. Or else half of the mods on this site is going to be trash without his work.
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@sportcar You're right in should be more people working in GTA V Scripthook development, but it goes far beyond than in game scripting skills, is low level programmation language and consumes too much time to motivate other programmers, but Alexander search people to help in Scripthook updates. So interested people always can participate as we can see in his SCRIPT HOOK V post.
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I looked at the SDK. Without having seen in person Blade work on patching the SHV code, I'm lost as to how to patch it myself. Definitely, a lot of work to do as it's hundreds of lines of code to sift through. Not sure if more/better comments on each code block would assist with that or not. I can certainly understand why it takes such a long time. Though to be fair, he has quite a bit of experience which means it'd take less time for him than it might for someone 'new'.
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@Anonymoused281 You wouldn't be able to without the source code, which the SDK does not provide.
If he did leave there would still be hope for all of the SHV mods. There is an open-source implementation of SHV named OpenVHook that can be updated by anyone. It is missing a few features of SHV so many mods would not work, but that could be fixed by anyone.
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@Jitnaught I'll look into that one. thanks!
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@sportcar said in script hook v:
@MetaGTA said in script hook v:
@cbm26 @sportcar Yeah, you don't have idea about programming to know the hard work to do for each game update. To offer a clear example, is like search needles in a big haystacknail, because each new game update includes new programming, edited and deleted methods in the game source code. Alexander Blade is not related in any way eith R* or T2, he is just a talented programmer who helps us by creating a bridge between our ideas and the game and exists lots of programmers skilled to do this in the world, but only he and Crosire are interested in the modding offering us their free time to build scripthooks for GTA V.
You get me wrong. I am not asking for fast updates. I am wondering why only one person working on the most crucial thing. As a noob first think I thought this guy had some codes that no other devolopers have here. If I was a mod devoloper I would be reluctant to devolop anything for GTA V, because if alexander blade is out, that means your whole work is trashed.
It's not a matter of codes. Typically, it's 'just' a matter of re-finding the proper offsets again in gta5.exe (for the 'hooks'). Tedious work, and usually done within a few days. The author of Menyoo has done similar stuff, for his own trainer, for the latest few updates.
Speaking of trashed, no need to trash Alex Blade, just because ppl can't be arsed to wait a few days. If ppl want to play in the interim, before the new scripthookv stuff is out, just use the backup you made.
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@meimeiriver I wish I could give your post 10 upvotes, mate!
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@Cyron43 thank you
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@cbm26
That was for meimeiriver.
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@meimeiriver said in script hook v:
@sportcar said in script hook v:
@MetaGTA said in script hook v:
@cbm26 @sportcar Yeah, you don't have idea about programming to know the hard work to do for each game update. To offer a clear example, is like search needles in a big haystacknail, because each new game update includes new programming, edited and deleted methods in the game source code. Alexander Blade is not related in any way eith R* or T2, he is just a talented programmer who helps us by creating a bridge between our ideas and the game and exists lots of programmers skilled to do this in the world, but only he and Crosire are interested in the modding offering us their free time to build scripthooks for GTA V.
You get me wrong. I am not asking for fast updates. I am wondering why only one person working on the most crucial thing. As a noob first think I thought this guy had some codes that no other devolopers have here. If I was a mod devoloper I would be reluctant to devolop anything for GTA V, because if alexander blade is out, that means your whole work is trashed.
It's not a matter of codes. Typically, it's 'just' a matter of re-finding the proper offsets again in gta5.exe (for the 'hooks'). Tedious work, and usually done within a few days. The author of Menyoo has done similar stuff, for his own trainer, for the latest few updates.
Speaking of trashed, no need to trash Alex Blade, just because ppl can't be arsed to wait a few days. If ppl want to play in the interim, before the new scripthookv stuff is out, just use the backup you made.
Hello meimeiriver
I am in the same boat unfortunetly but in order for this not to happen again what do I need to do now? Do I just completely copy the whole of the gta v game folder in steam now and then just overwrite the new updated files when it next happens obviously doing a new backup of the new updated files first? Thankyou
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@sajdjfbh said in script hook v:
@meimeiriver said in script hook v:
@sportcar said in script hook v:
@MetaGTA said in script hook v:
@cbm26 @sportcar Yeah, you don't have idea about programming to know the hard work to do for each game update. To offer a clear example, is like search needles in a big haystacknail, because each new game update includes new programming, edited and deleted methods in the game source code. Alexander Blade is not related in any way eith R* or T2, he is just a talented programmer who helps us by creating a bridge between our ideas and the game and exists lots of programmers skilled to do this in the world, but only he and Crosire are interested in the modding offering us their free time to build scripthooks for GTA V.
You get me wrong. I am not asking for fast updates. I am wondering why only one person working on the most crucial thing. As a noob first think I thought this guy had some codes that no other devolopers have here. If I was a mod devoloper I would be reluctant to devolop anything for GTA V, because if alexander blade is out, that means your whole work is trashed.
It's not a matter of codes. Typically, it's 'just' a matter of re-finding the proper offsets again in gta5.exe (for the 'hooks'). Tedious work, and usually done within a few days. The author of Menyoo has done similar stuff, for his own trainer, for the latest few updates.
Speaking of trashed, no need to trash Alex Blade, just because ppl can't be arsed to wait a few days. If ppl want to play in the interim, before the new scripthookv stuff is out, just use the backup you made.
Hello meimeiriver
I am in the same boat unfortunetly but in order for this not to happen again what do I need to do now? Do I just completely copy the whole of the gta v game folder in steam now and then just overwrite the new updated files when it next happens obviously doing a new backup of the new updated files first? Thankyou
You don't literally need to backup everything. Most obviously, you don't need to backup your mods and scripts folder (as they won't be touched). Or the MenyooStuff folder (if you have it). Typically you'll need, at the very least, GTAVLauncher.exe, GTA5.exe, and the entire update.rpf (from the update/ folder in the main directory). That should suffice for a working restore.
Personally, I love having a full backup (for restoring whatever DLC/script/etc I might have messed up tinkering with); but none of that is stricly needed for a working restore.
P.S. I'm not 100% sure any more, but I think I saw patchday17ng being updated as well (along with the new patchday18ng). Maybe someone can confirm that?! At any rate, as an old-style programmer, I tend to be prepared for eventualities like that, where I thought I had everything I needed, and then, dangit, I failed to backup a required item after all.
P.P.S. Even when you make a full backup, that's no reason to feel obligated to do a full restore.
Like I usually don't restore the above mentioned third-party folders, as they contain often updated TP points, markers, etc).
