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How can I disable automatic dimming of the screen when bright lights are visible?


  • On all versions of GTA 5 (mostly next gen) be it PS4, Xbox, PC, the default behaviour with the stock game is to dim the entire screen when there is a bright light.

    For example, if you're in normal third person view on a completely stock unmodded game driving a car, spam H to turn headlights on/off. you will notice the screen gets dimmer.

    I really dislike this cause it makes everything much much harder to see and makes me enjoy the game less.

    I tried turning up the brightness of the game a lot, but it doesn't remove this behaviour and that makes nights really non immersive, and all lighting looks flat.

    This has been a thing for years. I tried googling and searching forums with many many different wordings of this problem, but I haven't found anyone who's managed to disable this yet.

    How can I turn off or alleviate this behaviour?

    Thanks in advance. All help is much appreciated.

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    @sjain
    visualsettings.dat:

    ...\mods\update\update.rpf\common\data\visualsettings.dat

    Try this:

    # Adaptation
Adaptation.min.step.size 	0.00001
Adaptation.max.step.size 	0.0001
Adaptation.step.size.mult 	0.0001
Adaptation.threshold 		100.0
Adaptation.sun.exposure.tweak	-2

    "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." - Lewis Carroll (Alice in Wonderland)

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  • Thank you for your fast reply. I did that and the effect is minimised by 99.999% so it is simply not noticeable at night unless you stare into your monitor looking for it.

    However, it has a side effect in that if I spawn in an interior then walk outside during the day, it looks like this: https://imgur.com/a/fkXqfX6

    I'm not sure if this happens if you first spawn outside.

    I'm guessing this is not fixable?

    I tried setting sun.exposure.tweak to -3, but no avail.

    EDIT: Weird, it seems tabbing out of the game and back in fixes it. When I set the time to night however, its too dark. But again, tabbing in and out fixes it. Can't remember if i paused before tabbing out but try that.

    EDIT 2: Ok, seems alt tabing only fixes for the current area. When you start driving around or going up hills it slowly gets way too bright again https://imgur.com/a/VWwAXRO

    I can live with that, but would you know a way to avoid having to do that by any chance?

    Also side note, I'm currently using this with my custom improved spotlight and led setup: https://www.gta5-mods.com/misc/improved-spotlight-and-led-lighting#comments_tab

    https://pastebin.com/raw/9eVqFmXg

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    @sjain said in How can I disable automatic dimming of the screen when bright lights are visible?:

    I can live with that, but would you know a way to avoid having to do that by any chance?

    Nah, it doesn't do that in my game.
    I'm using these values, maybe try that (darkening effect may be slightly more apparent):

    # Adaptation
Adaptation.min.step.size 	0.001
Adaptation.max.step.size 	0.01
Adaptation.step.size.mult 	0.01
Adaptation.threshold 		10.0
Adaptation.sun.exposure.tweak	-2

    You can also lower these values to reduce the darkening effect also. Maybe find a compromise etc:

    visualsettings.dat:

    car.defaultlight.day.emissive.on		
car.defaultlight.night.emissive.on

    "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." - Lewis Carroll (Alice in Wonderland)

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    isn't adaptation also controlled over ENB?

    » "if you're packin' keep it on the lee low"

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  • Thanks for the reply. Thats really odd because im on a 100% stock game. Just deleted my mods folder and tried repasting your values with stock visualsettings, but the issue persists. What game version are you on? If its not too much trouble please could you send your entire visualsettings file? I run my game 100% stock and this is the only fix i ever want.

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  • I made some changes. Having gotten tired of only being able to use mods like VisualV, NVR when they are uptodate (otherwise bugs, etc), I wanted to customise my game via a more update friendly "portable" way, i.e. ENB for car damage, fixes, lens removal and better MSAA combined with ReShade for simple colour adjustments (thats all i really want tbh, and I understand ReShade better and find it friendlier than ENB)

    ENB made a huge fix to the overbright cars (im dumb, i just realise now its cause i managed to disable ingame bloom with it). I have literally everything disabled in ENB (except car damage, MSAA fixes, game fixes & chromatic abberation removal enabled) and ReShade fully disabled right now, but it still fixes it (and only it i.e. it doesnt mess up anything else). Also seems to fix sky being blindingly bright.
    before/after: https://imgur.com/a/P6XBU3f | https://imgur.com/a/clsNmK7 | https://imgur.com/a/1Wr90iu

    Whole game looks way sharper now. Shimmering jaggies literally magically removed themselves for a 5-10fps hit (i was already at 90+ already in all times and weathers), distant stuff isn't blurry, and the lens effects being removed means i can see stuff clearly finally.

    The only issue is, the adaptation getting stuck (too bright day / too dark night) still happens, even with adaptation enabled in ENB: https://imgur.com/a/8ngzrr4

    Any specific settigns i need to tweak in ENB for that? Also, i made another discovery, going into firstperson then out fixes it. So its 100% some weird game bug. Really odd that I experience this on fully stock and a63nt-5m1th doesnt.

    So the last issue is just that adaption getting stuck, then i need to extend those lod distances where stuff pops in right infront of my car, then im happy

    Oh and, even tho i have all effects disabled in enb it still messes with
    trees, any idea what to do about that? am i missing a setting https://imgur.com/a/A7rAmRV

    as a general noob question, how can i tweak the enb effects? changing stuff in the inis and menus has no effect, yet still, it fixes the bloom issue by itself and changes vegetation. disabling/enabling aa or bloom settings doesnt do anything, where do i find the actual settings to control

    also this issue - with enb installed alone, whether or not global effect is on/off, the grass shimmers. its only grass and small vegetation but it flickers a lot. AO is off. any ideas? you need to look closely. https://streamable.com/eu6jv8 might be a dll issue

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    @sjain
    Here are my ENB '.ini's, feel free to test them out & see if it makes any difference.

    @sjain said in How can I disable automatic dimming of the screen when bright lights are visible?:

    Oh and, even tho i have all effects disabled in enb it still messes with
    trees, any idea what to do about that?

    Yeah, that's how ENB works. There are certain shader changes that are applied just by using ENB.

    For the ENB settings. Some apply instantly on hitting Enter, others need a full profile reload to initiate.
    Generally, apply them in-game, save the profile & then force a reload of that profile.
    Can't remember exactly, but it's all using the 3 save/load options at the top left of the ENB UI.

    Note: You'll want to manually backup your ENB '.ini' files before trying this :thumbsup:

    "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." - Lewis Carroll (Alice in Wonderland)

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  • Thanks so much for uploading your ENB settings and explaining everything i appreciate that. I tried your inis but my issue wasn't fixed. Looking at the difference between inis https://www.diffchecker.com/qMDsHb5Z there was nothing related to adaptation so i doubt it wouldve fixed anyway.

    Not sure what to do at this point other than a full clean install of GTA 5. Also the issue doesnt only happen when changing times of day drastically using trainer, but also when moving between tunnels, under bridges/roofs, when emergency lights are visible (i.e. a fire truck driving up with sirens on turns down brightness, but it doesnt go back up when its gone unless i change views)

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    @sjain said in How can I disable automatic dimming of the screen when bright lights are visible?:

    but also when moving between tunnels, under bridges/roofs

    That does sound like something is broken.

    Here's a few things to try before a full re-install:

    • Try out my 'visualsettings.dat' & see if the issue persists.
    • Delete 'pc_settings.bin' & 'cfg.dat':
      Search C: drive for them & you should find them both together in a GTA V/Socialclub folder. Back them up & then delete them & new ones should be created on starting the game.
    • Backup your 'settings.xml' in Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA V & delete that too.
    • From there, start a new game & create a new save & see if you have the same issues

    "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." - Lewis Carroll (Alice in Wonderland)

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  • Hey, thanks for your reply again. I tried your visualSettings but it didn't fix unfortunately, and I also completely deleted mods folder and just installed your visualsettings again but it still didnt work. Here is the diff between our visualSettings. I believe yours is based on an older version of the game or something. https://www.diffchecker.com/oY2hNgou
    I also noticed that my rain drop value is excessively high compared to yours, which explains some new drops in FPS i was getting. And other stuff in your visualSettings was useful. I'm assuming the vehicle extras light setting being really high is for ELS, right? (just curious - its been a long while since I did LSPDFR)

    Don't worry about specifying paths lol i have voidTools Everything and easily found the files. And same for deleting, I never delete, only move out to another unused folder, usually on my files hdd.

    So, I did as you said, and I noticed that although the issue still occurs.. the game adapts itself back after a short amount of time... I actually restored my backup files to check, and the same behaviour happens.

    This is what i see (with your visualSettings)

    First person:

    -- if i change the camera to third person when everything is over exposed, it immediately fixes the issue. So basically, firstperson is too slow to adjust the adaptation compared to thirdperson. The same happens when i switch to night - its too dark, then it slooooooowly gets bright enough. Its too slow though, and when random things like firetrucks trigger it and my game gets too dark when driving at 60mph its annoying

    Third person:

    Is this what you're seeing? Or does the game simply behave completely normally for you?

    Also note that I didn't see an option ingame to make a new save. So I just deleted my entire profiles folder, which then let rockstar launcher let me disable auto save. This made all settings go to minimum by default, so clearly it was restoring an old backup when I didnt delete the entire profiles folder. still, didnt make a difference.

    Is it normal for the only options in the main menu to be quit, options and story mode now that i deleted the files though? Before there was online, and some mission stuff... will that return eventually?

    It should be noted that I previously tried NaturalVision Evolved. To uninstall it, I ran the uninstaller oiv, then deleted my mods folder, all asi and script files, scripts, inis, everything and reinstalled the openiv asi loader, simple trainer, and scripthookvdotnet.

    Still, heres a full tree of my install. Let me know if you see anything unusual like asi, dll https://pastebin.com/raw/UdEMnsx7

    Checking my game install with voidtools and ext:asi and ext:dll etc there are no leftover scripts that could be interfering. I also verified game files through steam (this removed asi files like openiv) and it was fine, so im eliminating that factor now.

    EDIT: On https://forums.gta5-mods.com/topic/32344/dark-screen-effect/20 i found https://forums.gta5-mods.com/topic/32344/dark-screen-effect/4. Tried setting values to 0.0, but it just made the adaptation issue come back again. I'll play around with the values

    (1)

    # Adaptation
    Adaptation.min.step.size 0.000000001
    Adaptation.max.step.size 0.000000001
    Adaptation.step.size.mult 0.000000001
    Adaptation.threshold 0.0
    Adaptation.sun.exposure.tweak -2

    Issue persists

    (2)

    # Adaptation
    Adaptation.min.step.size 0.000000001
    Adaptation.max.step.size 0.000000001
    Adaptation.step.size.mult 0.000000001
    Adaptation.threshold 100000000.0
    Adaptation.sun.exposure.tweak -2

    Issue persists but is a lot more noticeable

    (3)

    # Adaptation
    Adaptation.min.step.size 0.000000001
    Adaptation.max.step.size 0.000000001
    Adaptation.step.size.mult 0.000000001
    Adaptation.threshold 0.000000001
    Adaptation.sun.exposure.tweak -2

    Same as (1)

    (4)

    # Adaptation
    Adaptation.min.step.size 0.001
    Adaptation.max.step.size 0.01
    Adaptation.step.size.mult 0.01
    Adaptation.threshold -100000.0
    Adaptation.sun.exposure.tweak -2

    issue persists, no change in behaviour
    at this point im pretty sure only the first three value affect stuff

    (5)

    # Adaptation
    Adaptation.min.step.size 0.00001
    Adaptation.max.step.size 0.00001
    Adaptation.step.size.mult 5.0
    Adaptation.threshold 0.0
    Adaptation.sun.exposure.tweak -2

    Issue persists but i think it might be less noticeable

    (6)

    # Adaptation
    Adaptation.min.step.size 0.001
    Adaptation.max.step.size 0.001
    Adaptation.step.size.mult 300.0
    Adaptation.threshold 0.0
    Adaptation.sun.exposure.tweak -2

    Same as (5)

    Also it wasnt less noticeable. its just the random car i spawned had smaller lights.
    I think i give up on this issue at this point, im pretty sure its game behaviour, im just gonna have to stick with what i had before and live with it.

    How can I enable the ENB adaptation? I ticked the boxes but it doesn't do anything ingame. Does it only adapt enb effects or directly controls ingame adapatation?

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    @sjain
    My game pretty much acts completely normally. The only similar effect I get is that going from the main menu back to the game, there is a small ~0.5 sec delay in applying my ENB settings (they apply instantly when they do, just a small delay, started happening recently, not sure why, but not a big issue).

    Your Rain particles setting (~16000) is default, I reduced mine to 2048 as I can't tell the difference & it does, as you noticed, give a small performance boost.

    The difference between 1st person & third person may be down to differences in 'cameras.ymt' values. That file can't be edited/modded tho, the game doesn't accept it once edited.

    @sjain said in How can I disable automatic dimming of the screen when bright lights are visible?:

    Is it normal for the only options in the main menu to be quit, options and story mode now that i deleted the files though? Before there was online, and some mission stuff... will that return eventually?

    That doesn't sound normal, not sure what's happened there.

    @sjain said in How can I disable automatic dimming of the screen when bright lights are visible?:

    How can I enable the ENB adaptation? I ticked the boxes but it doesn't do anything ingame. Does it only adapt enb effects or directly controls ingame adapatation?

    I'm not sure exactly, I don't have a lot of ENB features activated:

    [EFFECT]
UseOriginalPostProcessing=false
UseOriginalBloom=true
UseOriginalAberrationAndLensDistortion=true
EnablePostPassShader=false
EnableAdaptation=false
EnableBloom=false
EnableLens=false
EnableDepthOfField=false
EnableAmbientOcclusion=true
EnableDetailedShadows=false
EnableNormalMappingShadow=false
EnableSkylighting=false
EnableSubSurfaceScattering=false
EnableSprites=false
EnableRainReflections=false
EnableShore=false
EnableWater=false
EnableDetailedShadow=false

    "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." - Lewis Carroll (Alice in Wonderland)

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