Are mods going to hell?
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@JohnFromGWN lmaooo. If you don't end up uploading I will definitely do it myself, that idea is way too hilarious 😂
Talking about the script
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@JustDancePC You have my permission. lol.
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@JohnFromGWN $150 for making Menyoo outfit prefits???? Dude, do you have any idea how difficult it is to find a good shoe just for the skirt?? and when you do that then you have to find a good top for both skirt and shoes too. Then there is jackets, sunglasses, earrings, watches, bracelets......
If I were to do a combination calculation, only the result number I wrote would fill up the site's server storage
and you saying $150 each. I mean what do you think this is, making a moon shape with a bubblegum?? I wouldn't sell it anything less than $2000 .Oh and, none of the protagonists nor MP Female/Male gone broke or bankrupt while I was writing this. If you have seen some of your money has been vanished from your online character, please absolutely do feel free to barge into TakeTwo HQ. I am innocent oh!
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@Aurora11 stop or I'll send the blob after you.
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IMHO, as a casual-modder? Yes. Things were AMAZING circa 2016-2019....now everything is just cars ( a lot of them amazing for sure), ped-accessories and MAYBE a neat looking script that i will get bored of in 24 hours.
Since that time, all my favorite mods are dead it seems. I used to combine NVR, WOV, Visual V, and Real Rage v and as a result i would have a lively world that was fun to sandbox in AND looked hella cool with minimal effort. Hell, i LOVED the vanillaworks mods...but now it seems like mod authors in general haven't updated in months/years and are either gone or moved their files over to patreon. I would love to get into HKH's mods, but i always wind up with a game-breaking bug of some sort. I don't have a whole lot of time for manually editing things in OIV or troubleshooting, so it makes things unappealing when i have to screw around with mod configurations, or create new RPF's for the mod folder and then manually edit them one by one.
I wish i had useful suggestions, but i don't. It seems like a lot of people are doing this just so they can get hired by a studio. How many mod authors have dreamed of releasing a mod in order to get noticed by Valve, Bethesda, Rockstar, etc. A lot, i would imagine. Something similar to the current state-of-decline happened with FO4 when the nexusmods controversies happened and thousands of mod authors had a collective hissy-fit over not being able to delete mods from mod-packs. People can't see past their egos, let alone be bothered to create a user friendly experience for both casuals like myself and the advanced users such as OP....and sometimes, people just simply get bored and move on, which i suppose i have a way easier time understanding and forgiving since there is no point in doing something that both bores you and doesn't pay.
Now, am i owed quality mods or entitled to mod authors labor? No, but that was never really the point of modding IMO. It was always something that people did out of genuine passion for the art or because they just wanted to expand on a game they genuinely loved.
Maybe there are good mods being released, and i am just being lazy as i enter my mid 30's...but mod quality and diversity-of-selection seems to have atrophied and/or declined. The community at large seems to have been atomized by discord and patreon.
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@Thelotuseater725 Hello friend, I really enjoyed reading you.
You are a casual user, the OP is advanced, but I am a total newbie and much older than you, so imagine how hard it is for me to understand and find good mods.
I've always been a fan of games that allow me the freedom to "live" in living worlds. That's why I was a big fan of Skyrim or Fallout back in the day, where I learned about the fantastic world of mods. Before they became fully sexualised games.
When I got interested in GTA V, seeing the amount of mods out there (I didn't even know the story of the game, nor was I interested in it), I found myself with an overwhelming amount of mods, but they didn't really add anything to me.
I searched and searched, I learned a lot, but despite the short time I've been here and in which I've learned to edit my textures, to install MLOs from FiveM in SP, to edit small parameters to do everything as I want, I still have that empty feeling because somehow I know that the "good" is now private.
I've browsed Patreons, I've gossiped discoord channels, but I don't want to pay for a damn motorbike, or have to eat the requirements bullshit to find the latest version of a mod.
I understand, as I've said before, that people have a lot of quality as modders, and want to make money, but I also think it's ruined the philosophy of the modding world.
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@Thelotuseater725 said in Are mods going to hell?:
Now, am i owed quality mods or entitled to mod authors labor? No, but that was never really the point of modding IMO. It was always something that people did out of genuine passion for the art or because they just wanted to expand on a game they genuinely loved.
Maybe there are good mods being released, and i am just being lazy as i enter my mid 30's...but mod quality and diversity-of-selection seems to have atrophied and/or declined. The community at large seems to have been atomized by discord and patreon.Well said, you perfectly captured the essence of how many of us feel about modding within the GTA5 and gaming communities in general - how it should be, how it was, how it has deteriorated.
I wish I'd been here from the beginning, but I came to the party very late. At first I didn't feel any need to mod, I was looking for a sandbox to create some educational materials, something better than GMOD. I guess I was also overwhelmed with all this new terminology and requirements.
Being a fan of Ferraris, I finally took the dive and installed my first addon vehicle which promptly crashed my game. I took the challenge, fixed the issue, and was hooked. So even though I arrived on the scene late, there was still an incredible amount of high quality and relevant mods to download.
Sometimes I read posts on the other forum from 2014, before the PC release, when users like Alexander Blade were sharing their discoveries with the community and guys like Mafins was answering questions on a revolutionary tool he was developing called Menyoo. No patreon requests.
Today we sure have our choice of t-shirts and the promise of "better quality " if you join a discord server,
No thank you.
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@JohnFromGWN Dude, you know the Rags & Riches mod?
I just came across it by pure chance, and no, I'm not referring to this page we're on.
I don't know if it's legal or not to link to external sites, so I won't, but have a look on google.
It's yet another proof that quality stuff is out of our reach.
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@Fabito48hd AFAIK there isn't any policy in place here preventing links to other sites.
What about this mod?
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@JohnFromGWN Ok, I'll show you.
It's a map mod, but in my opinion it's a great work that I would like to try, but...
https://ambitioneers.tebex.io/package/4649010
I don't know if there is a free option, I just didn't want to do much more research.
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@Fabito48hd price is ridiculously expensive although it is meant for servers, so likely they make money as well.
If you're playing with friends there are hundreds and hundreds of free assets to keep you going, from Liberty City to dozens of racetracks and plenty of MLOs and interiors. Host your own local server.
Anyway I only use free addons and maps, no scripts, and no servers. Really not into RP. If I want coop, prefer shooters and zombies.
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@JohnFromGWN Me too, but I admit that I am a big fan of the MLOs, although I have already exhausted all the options on this page and that's why I am looking (unsuccessfully) for other options outside of here.
That's why I found that one.
If you know of other places where I can also find free MLOs, I'd be very grateful.
Best regards!
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@Fabito48hd I don't know of any, but if your adventurous you can create your own.
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@JohnFromGWN man, I've discovered something, but I'd like to pass it on to you privately, even though I can't send you a message.
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@Fabito48hd Try now.
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i don't think, and my opinion is no
mobdro
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Modders gettin greddy community goes to shit obviously
I remember times when GTA SA made outstanding maps and scripts that would not compare to any other game out of passion and for free most important , screw Pateron u gettin leaked anyway
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@vasimontana said in Are mods going to hell?:
screw Pateron u gettin leaked anyway
So true. That's the GTA mods getting revenge on the profiteers.
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@JohnFromGWN All that Patreon bs. I blame the school system. Programming impressionable minds how to make desperate bucks at the expense of long term overall collective value.
As far as Patreon and GTA V modding / general pc game modding goes...
"...We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people." ` Patrick Bateman
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@gtavjamal I'm reverted, 2372 forever, but can you imagine if Alexander Blade decided scripthookv was only available on Patreon?
You would have to pay with each update or get a leak, nobody would replace it for free.
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Nice to see, on a forum that can accurately be described as very low activity, a post about mod quality with over 3,600 views. Confirmation that this is a topic of both interest and concern.
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@JohnFromGWN Hell yea dawg im with ya on the 2372 forever revert.
Haha SHV on Patreon!!
Forget leaks. Everyone is given unique generated codes requiring an internet connection authentication launcher. Detection of duplicate codes result in an instant code termination with no recourse.
Also...
Mods will work according to the Patreon tier you subscribe to...
Gold = full access, all mods work
Silver = all mods but no maps, graphics mods or vehicles other than cars.
Bronze = mod menus and peds onlyEnd of subscription means termination of your SHV by the end of the month. It is encouraged not to terminate subscription otherwise you have to pay another joining fee lol.
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@gtavjamal said in Are mods going to hell?:
Forget leaks. Everyone is given unique generated codes requiring an internet connection authentication launcher. Detection of duplicate codes result in an instant code termination with no recourse.
Also...
Mods will work according to the Patreon tier you subscribe to...
Gold = full access, all mods work
Silver = all mods but no maps, graphics mods or vehicles other than cars.
Bronze = mod menus and peds onlyNah, more like this:
Detection of duplicate codes results in an instant reformatting of all your drives with no recourse.Gold = full access, all mods work, all functions of hot coffee in pervert mode.
Silver = all mods but no maps, graphics mods or vehicles other than cars, hot coffee limited to kissing on lips and hugging.
Bronze = mod menus and peds only, hot coffee limited to holding hands, one kiss on cheek per session, cars limited to 20 kmh, mp female is only female ped, Michael replaced by blob mod.
P.S. All trainers are now on a pay as you play model. Collisions for MLOs and interiors not included, available as options.
GTA5 Mods moves to paid subscription business model. $20 per month + $0.50 per download for basic plan.
