Who do you think the best car modelers / modders are?
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EDIT: So, given the amount of criticism received, and the fact that my ratings aren't really based on anything other than my opinion which is obviously inaccurate, I have decided to code a rating system that will rate based on the number of mods released by that user, the average rating of all the mods, and the number of votes on each mod total, all converted in to a decimal. I'll of course release the script and explain in better detail exactly how the ratings are calculated, so this is now just going to be a fun project for myself, will it be helpful to others? I think so. I've cleared all ratings, and am now working on an algorithm to do the rating for us.
Vehicles:
Rating Pending:
[GOC]pen00820
se7enmoon
GtaSKoRn & Alex9581
saysay & Alex9581
p4elkin & Alex9581
fantazer_md & Alex 9581
ahmeda1999
carface80
DragoN777
tkOwnz
elcreador
Neophyte lndustries
Vans123
VIP GROUP
CSQS74
Zievs
Rmod Customs
ANeRTee
KAMELKFB
[YCA]Aige
esprit
YCA-Nima
ohiocinu
Asern
Zen-Imogen
Dreamsky
KAFAROS
solo
dantsp
Emergency Vehicles:
BxBuggs
ALLENjr12
TacticalPotato
PSource
POLICESCO
PimDSLR
MrPotato
TickleMyElmo
Gump
steinberg4145
Black Jesus
DevinKan
Aircraft & Military:
CANAL EMBRAER GTA
FoxtrotDelta
elcreador
SkylineGTRFreak
Graphic Enhancements & Miscellaneous:
Razed
Vlad(Desmond98)
frazzleeWill add more as I come across them.
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@JZersche Just to play devil's advocate, be aware this could turn unpleasant if someone not on your list thinks they should be. I know your thread probably has good intentions, but history has shown that these things can go sideways very quickly.
I would say that at least one of your 5 star ratings has too many stars. I know of one from personal experience and having just picked a random car from another, I would say the same for them as well... I'm not going to put names to those findings btw.
You have to look beneath the shiny surface to find the really good modellers, look through the yft and ytd files. See how they manage the LODs, see how/if they apply reasonably sized textures (including mipmaps) to different parts of the vehicle... you know, like does that specmap really need to be a 2K texture with 10 mipmaps? Or does that interior seat texture really need to be 4K?
A good modeller knows how to balance resources with requirements and doesn't just make textures as big as they can for the sake of it.
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A 'good' modder can be more than just a person releasing mods, it can actually be a (virtual) friend aswell
That being said, I miss several of those on this list
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Well the ratings are based off not just model quality and functionality, and if you don't see your name here, it's not that I didn't add you, I just perhaps haven't heard of you. If it's within the forums rules, you can post your model here for critic.
The primary purpose of this thread is to encourage modelers to share insight and information, and if you're a modeler who isn't open to constructive criticism, then so be it. All of the modelers up here have at least one good high quality vehicle, I haven't even began to include script modelers, yet.
So, no harm done? But, as Rennie stated, a good modder could be a matter of how user friendliness. I personally like to share what I know, and I like to help people, I encourage open-source software, and I encourage constructive criticism.
If I was a modeler, I wouldn't be having my feelings hurt by having people say my model is lacking.
In order to make this list, you have to have at least one decent car that I've found that I think is good.
5 Stars usually relates to modders who are active and updating their mods frequently.
For example, I think https://www.gta5-mods.com/vehicles/mclaren-650s-coupe-hq [Zen-Imogen] did a great job on this vehicle. He doesn't have many vehicles, and some of them may be lacking in terms of how the interior looks, I personally don't like the interior of his Ferrari F430.
In which case Game68240's looks better in my opinion, but seems to lack interior dashboard lighting for the dials. https://www.gta5-mods.com/vehicles/ferrari-430-scuderia-add-on-replace-tuning-templateYou often find great quality models, but there sometimes is one little flaw that doesn't seem to get fixed, in this case it's the dials not being lit up. If Game68240 ever sees this thread maybe he'll consider fixing the dials. His Porsche 718 Boxster S is absolutely beautiful.
Some of my 5 star ratings and 4.5 star ratings were placed without actually testing the vehicle that encouraged me to give such a rating, so the ratings will change eventually. I want to eventually update this thread with at least 12 of some of the best looking vehicles that could be combined in to a single DLC Pack for personal use.
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VIP non public release modelers should be excluded.
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I don't think this is going to end well. @rappo is this OK?
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Why aren't Vans123, LordNeophyte, Dreamsky and Peng0 on the list?
That's just to name a few...Also what V4D3R said.
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@Razed And FoxtrotDelta, CANAL-EMBRAER-GTA, KAFAROS, Frazzlee, Gta5KoRn and se7enmoon
Threads like these are known to go sideways, this thread will be monitored.
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Oh are we naming then? solo, carface80, Zievs, DragoN7777, tk0wnz, esprit, Nima,
you can take Alex 9581's name away from p4 as Alex doesn't model
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@ReNNie I don't even know some of his "best modders"
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@V4D3R said in Who do you think the best car modelers / modders are?:
I don't think this is going to end well. @rappo is this OK?
You could be right.
@rastakilla said in Who do you think the best car modelers / modders are?:
VIP non public release modelers should be excluded.
They have public mods, and vehicles on here.
@Razed said in Who do you think the best car modelers / modders are?:
Why aren't Vans123, LordNeophyte, Dreamsky and Peng0 on the list?
That's just to name a few...Also what V4D3R said.
@JZersche said in Who do you think the best car modelers / modders are?:
"if you don't see your name here, it's not that I didn't add you, I just perhaps haven't heard of you. "Or didn't get around to adding you, I literally just made this thread.
I know this site has a gold star system, and the moderator is thinking it won't end well, and I can't think of any reasons why it wouldn't end well, if you don't have 5 stars, it just means that I think you have room for improvement, which most developers most likely already know. I mean you can rate mods on their page anyway, this is just a way to have a list of some of the most well known or sometimes lesser known modders, that I think have done a decent job. 4 Stars could sometimes mean that your vehicle is high quality but lacks an interior hence you lose a star. It's not meant to offend or insult any developers, it's meant to encourage developers to be better, possibly update their releases, maybe even push for a 5 star rating. My thread isn't supposed to be a big deal, it's not a big deal, it's just my opinion, which other can collaborate on. Any developer uncomfortable about people discussing why they don't like certain aspects of their developments?
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I have a lot of respect for Zievs, RMod Customs, ahmeda1999, Korn, Zen-Imogen and elcreador. Theres a lot more to list but thats just who i can remember at the moment ^-^
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And... Let's not forget Count Vlad to whom we thank many a 3D model
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@JZersche said in Who do you think the best car modelers / modders are?:
and I can't think of any reasons why it wouldn't end well..
Have you read the first comment of your post, by LeeC2202? He said, "be aware this could turn unpleasant if someone not on your list thinks they should be. I know your thread probably has good intentions, but history has shown that these things can go sideways very quickly."
Currently your thread has no problems, and as long as it stays that way, your thread will be fine.
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I just figure, if somebody isn't on my list, they probably don't have a model that I would rate 5 or 4 stars, otherwise I can easily add them. Which I would.
Anyone with 4 stars, or non gold stars, can consider it constructive criticism, that you have room for improvement.
That moment when you realize just how many modders there are.
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@JZersche said in Who do you think the best car modelers / modders are?:
My thread isn't supposed to be a big deal, it's not a big deal, it's just my opinion
The only reason I made my comment is because of that famous internet saying about opinions... which I won't repeat as it's kinda crude.
Imagine you're one of those users who has a problem with one of these 5-star modders' vehicles. Imagine you've posted repeatedly on their page asking for that problem to be fixed and got greeted with a hostile/negative response or simply silence... and trust me, I've experienced two of those myself. That's where threads like this get dangerous, because ignored or rejected users get angry and this kind of thread gives them a place to be vocal. I just leave them to it and don't rate the mod.
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If you put someone on a pedestal, just be prepared for people who want to knock them off. As I said, if you dig beneath the shiny surface of some of the vehicles made by some people, you find disturbing things in there. Some people are less tolerant to those things...
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^ Let alone scripters
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@ReNNie I hadn't noticed we had moved into the other categories, I thought it was just vehicle mods... but yeah, no category is immune.
Anyway, my sentiments were just words of caution, nothing more... my apologies if it seemed like I was trying to rain on the parade.
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All I'm going to say is that I heartily disagree with many of your ratings, and as others have said, the quality of the model is much more than skin-deep.
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My ratings aren't necessarily accurate, and they're just based on what I've seen so far, without doing any actual testing yet. So they are not complete ratings nor are they agreed upon, yet, as I have mentioned.
quote-unquote LeeC2202
"Imagine you're one of those users who has a problem with one of these 5-star modders' vehicles. Imagine you've posted repeatedly on their page asking for that problem to be fixed and got greeted with a hostile/negative response or simply silence... and trust me, I've experienced two of those myself. That's where threads like this get dangerous, because ignored or rejected users get angry and this kind of thread gives them a place to be vocal. I just leave them to it and don't rate the mod. :"It's going to take me some time to adjust the ratings accurately, so yes they are subject to change. The ratings right now are just based off just what I've seen at first glance.
Featuring [GOC]peng00820's model, last updated 5 months ago, looks absolutely brilliant, it's got a 4.81 / 5 stars (36 votes) rating, along with 5 of his other vehicles with all
Let's say his ratings for each vehicle are 4.82 + 4.81 + 4.96 + 4.63 + 4.84 which gives us an average of 4.81 between a total of 161 voters overall. Which gives him a 4.8 star rating. I'll write a script later to do all this automatically. But yeah, this was my idea for a thread and I think that's fair to start. Now, if you've had a problem with one of these vehicles, and 36 other votes who rated the vehicle 5 stars didn't, and you didn't receive a response, these ratings aren't meant to attribute value towards how responsible the modders are, but I think we're gonna get in to that and that's what I'm gonna use the gold stars for. I'm working on a script right now to do all of this.
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@JZersche I suppose I should be flattered that I'm included on your "best car modeler" list, but to give you my honest opinion I think this list is unnecessary and rather skewed. My opinion is based off the "emergency vehicle modeler" list since I have not spent all that much time seriously looking at the other types of mods present on this list. I feel like this list in only a matter of time will cause more drama, and controversy then there already is. Next I feel that a decent amount of the people (not going to name names) you put on the list (again the "emergency vehicle modeler" list) do not put out all that great content, but rather throw out as many cars as they can as fast as they can with putting little to no effort into making them. Also ratings on files are very subjective, so just because a file has only five star reviews doesn't necessarily make it good by any means. Finally I feel your list is extremely noninclusive. There are way more than just 12 emergency vehicle modelers out there that release far superior models compared to a majority of your list. Remember this is my opinion and you can do whatever you want with it whether that be to take it into consideration or to throw it out, but I do hope that you will read it and take something away from it.
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@steinberg
I made this list for my own personal use really. I'm just sharing it. "I feel like this list in only a matter of time will cause more drama, and controversy then there already is."So to fix that, I've removed all ratings and wrote a script where ratings can be calculated.
I'm only doing this for myself as a small project given the amount of criticism on such a thread, so now it's become just a small coding project for myself. Obviously if somebody has released over 50 mods, it might end up taking awhile to count all the numbers and ratings for each mod. So, I might think of some ways to compensate for that. Of course there are more than 12 Emergency Vehicle modders, so like I said, these ratings aren't accurate, and given the amount of criticism on the thread, what if I were to do it another way, and just make a global rating algorithm? Would it be helpful to anyone? I think it would.
The script is here.
http://pastebin.com/CiCEBq1TYou can test it on any site that can run PHP code, just google 'run php online' and paste the code in of course.
Alright, so let's say somebody has 150 Voters total on every mod they've released, let's say they've released 6 Modifications total, and let's calculate and average from the total rating of each one of those mods, and then let's say that the total number of voters is 150, and then divide that by 500 which gives us a overall rating of 5.0266.
GlobalRatingSystem(150, 'Name_1', 6, [4.38, 4.85, 4.65, 4.74, 4.84, 4.90]);
Is that cool? Can we do it that way?
So, If you uploaded 30 mods, and have about 350 voters total all with ratings like
GlobalRatingSystem(350, 'Name_2', 30, [4.88, 4.85, 4.85, 4.94, 4.84, 4.90, 4.75, 4.78, 4.85, 4.94, 4.93, 4.78, 4.74, 4.88, 4.78, 4.78, 4.82, 4.55, 4.95, 4.88, 4.87, 4.42, 4.78, 4.85, 4.96, 4.56, 4.85, 4.74, 4.68, 4.78]);
You're gonna get a rating like:
What do you think?
