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is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?



  • just wondering,cos i believe downtown and the beach are too empty, and would like if possible to change it myself



  • @BladeRJ you can increase peds overall by going to settings.xml and changing pedvariety past 1.0 value i suggest values between 1.25 to 1.50. Your vram usage will increase though by 200-300mb on your graphics card when you increase the settings past the original 1.0. Use OpenIV and search for settings.xml to find it.

    I wouldnt recommend settings trafficvariety much past 1.10 this one deals with cars spawning in traffic. Increase too much and you will have textures flickering on and off along with roads disappearing i leave mine at 1.0 for trafficvariety and set my pedvariety to 1.18 to 1.20.



  • @Willief23 Is that the settings.xml that is in your Documents folder?

    In my game the one that OpenIV found in x64a.rpf didn't have that setting for some reason.



  • @LeeC2202 yes its the settings.xml found in mydocuments folder.



  • @Willief23 Thank you... I will do this later as well. :slight_smile:



  • @LeeC2202 settings.xml also has
    <PedLodBias value="0.750000" />
    <VehicleLodBias value="0.750000" />
    i think i changed it to 0.85 or 0.90 and didnt noticed a change. Probably have to experiment with 1.0 to 1.25 to see if that makes any difference in lod qualitys.



  • @LeeC2202 Hmm, wasn't this stuff controlled by the various gameconfig files?! (lile 0.5 peds, 0.5 traffic, etc).



  • @Willief23 said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    @BladeRJ you can increase peds overall by going to settings.xml and changing pedvariety past 1.0 value i suggest values between 1.25 to 1.50. Your vram usage will increase though by 200-300mb on your graphics card when you increase the settings past the original 1.0.

    Pedvariety != pedamount! Indeed, like discussed earlier (with increasing traffic variety) more different types of peds (like more different kind of cars) will increase Vram usage.

    I think what the OP is looking for is more ped amount, not more ped variety per se. So, maybe use a different gameconfig then.



  • @meimeiriver I don't even know if they work to be honest. I spent about three days with someone a long while back, trying everything to increase ped numbers... I even wrote a tool to edit the popgroups to try and do it and nothing made it increase.

    We came to the conclusion that the answers lay elsewhere but gave up trying to find it. :D

    PedVariety on the other hand, if that works I will definitely be happy with just a simple settings change. :slight_smile:



  • @meimeiriver @LeeC2202 pedvariety does increase ped amount i think it does both ped amount and ped variety. Also under gameconfig you would need to scroll to line 298 and change the value to either 356, 456 or 556. And then increase values at lines 583-586. Line 587 pedmemory will most likely need to be increased as well values between 600-780 should be enough.



  • @LeeC2202 said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    PedVariety on the other hand, if that works I will definitely be happy with just a simple settings change

    You have an 8G card. :) You f*cking rich ppl! :boot:

    Seriously, though, my GTX 980 is at 3,960 MB as it is; it can't sustain 1 G extra, or even 500 MB. In fact, blindly fiddling with that settings.xml file might even be hazardous to my card. No kidding. I burnt out an old GTX 580 once, pushing it past its Vram limits. So, if I were to force the game to suddenly use like 500 MB extra (going thru the official menu will prevent that, of course), I might get a repeat of last time. :)



  • @Willief23 said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    @meimeiriver @LeeC2202 pedvariety does increase ped amount i think it does both ped amount and ped variety. Also under gameconfig you would need to scroll to line 298 and change the value to either 356, 456 or 556. And then increase values at lines 583-586. Line 587 pedmemory will most likely need to be increased as well values between 600-780 should be enough.

    Cool, good to know it increases amount too. But I think I'm actually going to use your post to try and lower ped/car variety/amount a bit, so I can use the freed up Vram for maybe some higher quality settings. :)



  • @meimeiriver upgrade the cooling on that 980. Accelero Xtreme III cooler is the best air cooler for any nvidia or amd graphics card. You will also have 50-70% less noise since the 3 fans on the cooler are smaller and not as loud as the fan or fans that come original on any graphics card. Plus your card will run alot cooler. Mine never goes over 60C with it overclocked.



  • @Willief23 said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    @meimeiriver upgrade the cooling on that 980. Accelero Xtreme III cooler is the best air cooler for any nvidia or amd graphics card. You will also have 50-70% less noise since the 3 fans on the cooler are smaller and not as loud as the fan or fans that come original on any graphics card. Plus your card will run alot cooler. Mine never goes over 60C with it overclocked.

    I burned it out, not from overheat, but by ignoring the safety limits on Vram usage (ironically, also on GTA V, back in 2015). And sure enough my card was hosed the next time I used it. So that's not an experiment I care to repeat. :)



  • @meimeiriver said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    Seriously, though, my GTX 980 is at 3,960 MB as it is

    My 970 used 2.4GB of VRam with the settings I used, even my 1080 uses less than 3.5GB.



  • @LeeC2202 said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    @meimeiriver said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    Seriously, though, my GTX 980 is at 3,960 MB as it is

    My 970 used 2.4GB of VRam with the settings I used, even my 1080 uses less than 3.5GB.

    I use 'medium' textures (I don't think the game even offers me a choice in the matter); but I like high quality settings, overall, with high quality shadows, and AA and such. Was just looking at it the other day, and it's at absolute max (with like a 40MB margin).



  • @LeeC2202 said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    @meimeiriver said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    Seriously, though, my GTX 980 is at 3,960 MB as it is

    My 970 used 2.4GB of VRam with the settings I used, even my 1080 uses less than 3.5GB.

    Come to think of it, that really is extraordinary. I would have thought, with a 1080 and all, you'd definitely be using the highest quality textures.



  • @meimeiriver Here's a screenshot from when I first got my 1080 and was really messing with things, look at the settings, then look at the VRam usage.

    Actually, that's not my settings. :( I just noticed the refresh rate... I'm at 59Hz

    alt text



  • @LeeC2202 How peculiar! You seem to have a lot more settings options! Here are mine:

    On the Low end of the Scale



  • @BladeRJ Sorry if this appears to be dragging the thread off topic slightly but if the impact of changing these settings is a negative efffect on your performance in some way, it might prove to be useful info for you and anyone else reading this topic.

    Any time you increase the amount of resources in use, or the variations of those resources, it's comes at a potential loss to performance.

    If you'd prefer this aspect of the settings to be discussed elsewhere, please don't hesitate to say so. This is your thread and we will respect that decision without question.



  • @meimeiriver I notice you are in windowed borderless mode, does that change things?

    It's also worth mentioning that the picture I posted includes settings from the advanced page as well.



  • @LeeC2202 Indeed. I felt I might post it here, as ped/car variety is directly linked to VRAM usage. But if Willief23 doesn't want it here, then that's fine with me.



  • @meimeiriver @BladeRJ is the OP and it does seem to be directly related to what @Willief23 mentioned in his first post, which is why I thought it was useful to continue with it.



  • @LeeC2202 said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    @meimeiriver I notice you are in windowed borderless mode, does that change things?

    It's also worth mentioning that the picture I posted includes settings from the advanced page as well.

    pout I included settings from my advanded graphics too; it's just very limited, it seems. :)

    'Windowed borderless' makes no difference (except that it makes switching between GTA V and other apps a breeze). Disabling FXAA had no impact on VRAM whatsoever; reducing MSAA to x2 lowered VRAM usage a bit, but still like at 3.2G.



  • @LeeC2202 said in is it possible to increase ped amount in specific areas ?:

    @meimeiriver @BladeRJ is the OP and it does seem to be directly related to what @Willief23 mentioned in his first post, which is why I thought it was useful to continue with it.

    Indeed, it was BladeRJ. My bad. And yes, as increasing ped variety will increase VRAM usage, and increasing VRAM usage beyond what you have to spare might be hazardous, I figured I'd throw that into the mix too. But yeah, we can continue it elsewhere if the OP wants us to do so.


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