@DugiHowser said in Replacing cars but having random crashes:

I carefully read other's posts especially ModHunter's on replacing cars however I am now stuck with random crashes. I have about 10-12 with size files NO bigger than 20MB per car. 98% of the replace cars are 10MB or less. I have 3 police cars that are 15-20MB in size. I would stress test by having my character auto drive around the map with 5 stars for about 40min. No

Yes I'm aware of this great tutorial thank you again for shooting me more info. I did replace 4 more cars and played for about 3 or so hours. Happy to report no crashes! Now I am trying the addon way @a63nt-5m1th mentioned. Crossing my fingers..

P.S. Going about the addon route less straining on the game's engine or its all the same?
Thanks!

@a63nt-5m1th said in Replacing cars but having random crashes:

@DugiHowser
Sounds good

Yeah, not all add-ons like being replaces & vice versa.

Just in case you don't know, you can spawn add-on cars ambiently on the streets (just like a replace would) without having to convert them to a full replace version. Only real downside might be the add-on cars won't appear in scripted storymode events (without a vanilla name) & an add-on dlc uses up available add-on slots (you can combine a heap of add-on vehicles into one add-on dlc to combat that tho).
It's easier & more reliable than converting an add-on to a replace & it's also great from a diagnostic point of view, being able to disable all your personal add-on cars with one edit of 'dlclist.xml' etc

It all depends on your reason for using replace vehicles of course, they have their place certainly, but for the most part, you can pretty much use an add-on in the same way as a replace, so don't be locked in on having to convert them all to replace to get the functionality you want. There are usually multiple routes to the same outcome as far as replace & add-on vehicles are concerned

Replacing a vanilla vehicle with an add-on is as simple as editing 'popgroups.ymt'

...\mods\update\update.rpf\x64\levels\gta5\popgroups.ymt

Open 'popgroups.ymt' & find the name/s of the vanilla vehicle you want to replace, & change all of it's name entries (same car often has multiple entries) to the name of your add-on vehicle.
Your add-on will then spawn on the streets in place of the vanilla vehicle.

As mentioned, if a storymode scripted event calls the vanilla vehicle, it will be the vanilla vehicle that is spawned, not your add-on, so you'll want to have at least some full replace versions installed for those cars, but apart from that, replace & add-on vehicle functionality is pretty much identical.

This is great info I did not know that thank you so much! My end goal is to replace or come close to replacing as many vanilla cars as I can. I truly want to have that "real life" experience lol. Ill start playing around with the popgroups.ymt and update with my results. Thanks again

@a63nt-5m1th Agreed and thanks for the info. Soon after that last crash I decided to weed through the cars to see which is the culprit. I don't get crashes playing vanilla without mods. Being since these 8-10 replace cars are the only mods I have it has to be one of them or maybe more. So, I removed the last replace model I used. It was actually a Add-On to which I converted to a replace. I played the game for an hour or more and no crash. I won't say I'm out of the woods yet but feel I am on the right track. I replaced that car that I removed with another model (this time an actual replace file) and played for another hour and no crash. I'm leaning on that, that last removed car was the culprit. I then replaced 3 more cars and played for another 1-2 hours and was crash free. Ill continue to replace 1-2 models at a time and play to see results over the weekend.
I guess to take away from this that not all Add-On cars can be properly used as replace cars? Something goes wrong when pulling the .ytd, .ytf etc and moving them into your vehicles folder? Which I have done to multiple cars that I couldn't find replace files for so I instead used the Add-On models. Not all car Add-Ons are meant to be used like that I presume.

Question and not to sound dumb.. Why would a "bad car mod" or incorrectly converted car mod crash the game and how? Does it error out when the game tries to load it in the spawn pool or when you use it or both? I have used this vehicle before and the game didn't crash instantly when I spawned it so I'm just curious. Knowing this will help me would help me be more efficient and effective in my testing.

Nonetheless I will continue over the weekend and will update.

So I did some further testing (playing missions and free mode stuff) and experienced some more crashes here and there. I Have not gotten a .NET error since I removed SHV and SHV.net. However, this time around Ill just get a crash to desktop with no errors logged in my Event Viewer. I decided to do a fresh install of the game and just do the bare minimum with mods. Still would get a random crash to desktop. I managed to get launcher log of the crash..
[2021-05-13 22:00:10.278] [DISPLAY] [ 1300] [gamelaunch] Game exited with code 0xc0000005 (3221225477)
[2021-05-13 22:00:10.316] [DISPLAY] [ 1300] [crashdetection] Game left no exit file.
[2021-05-13 22:00:10.316] [ ERROR ] [ 1300] [crashdetection] Exit code 0xc0000005 indicates a fatal game exit (reason: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION)
I have no mods installed other than the same 8-10 cars when I started and just the preventatives like Heap and Gameconfig etc. The game plays fine without mods so I will assume its one of the cars that's causing the crash unless this error pertains to something entirely different. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

@WGotch07 said in Replacing cars but having random crashes:

@DugiHowser said in Replacing cars but having random crashes:

HeapAdjuster & Heap Limit Adjuster - Latest version

Pick either one, both do the same thing, having both can cause crashes.

Thanks for the response. Yes I thought that would be the case so I just have HeapAdjuster with the heap capped at 2k. Not the cause of the crashes unfortunately however, I removed my Scripts folder and started getting another error after crash.

Application: GTA5.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: exception code c0000005, exception address 00007FF7BD622730
Stack:

Its a .NET Framework error so I thought that my .NET needed updating well, its up to date. I then narrowed it down to Scripthookv.NET and Scripthookv so I removed them and installed RAGEhook with simple trainer. Spawned a couple replaced cars and had my character drive around the map for an hour with 5 stars on him to stress the game a bit. Seemed stable and no crashes. I played for another hour and again stable with no crashes. As of now its stable and I will be going back to replace more cars and stress test some more to make fully sure that I am in the clear. I think with SHV.net being out dated and using Menyoo was causing the crashes as all errors were .NET related. At least its what I researched. I believe I have a Windows update to do which I will do once I log off. That could be a contributor as well. Once updated Ill throw SHV and SHV.net back in with Menyoo and stress test again. If it crashes again then I guess Ill know the root cause is for sure. Ill update tomorrow.

Update: I just tried to increase the heap in the .ini however no luck. Here is my error log from event viewer..

Faulting application name: GTA5.exe, version: 1.0.2245.0, time stamp: 0x60424894
Faulting module name: clr.dll, version: 4.8.4341.0, time stamp: 0x602301f3
Exception code: 0xc00000fd
Fault offset: 0x000000000066a450
Faulting process id: 0x1634
Faulting application start time: 0x01d746b557e3532e
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto V\GTA5.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\clr.dll
Report Id: 4697c7a6-2063-4ec0-b5b7-aa0c7119cbf0
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

This seems to be the same error I get every time it crashes. I do not get any ingame errors when it crashes. Just crash to desktop. I also do not see an error log in my documents so this is all I have to go with.

Hello,
Long story short I am attempting to replace spawn cars with their real life counterparts. My ultimate goal is to replace all if not most of the cars to have that complete "realism" feel. I know its a tall order but I have read around that it is possible. I started with a fresh install of the game and began to install my mods 1 at a time and ran the game for a bit to check stability. Once all of my game enhancing mods and scripts were stable I began replacing cars. I carefully read other's posts especially ModHunter's on replacing cars however I am now stuck with random crashes. I have about 10-12 with size files NO bigger than 20MB per car. 98% of the replace cars are 10MB or less. I have 3 police cars that are 15-20MB in size. I would stress test by having my character auto drive around the map with 5 stars for about 40min. No crashes. (This was successful with other mods and scripts active that are listed below.) I then replaced another car and the game crashed 20 minutes in. I removed it and tried another with the same result. I then tried another gameconfig and had the same result. I then tried it with the same 10-12 cars from the start and the game now crashes in about 20min or so. I swapped around some gameconfigs most of which didn't get me past the loading screen. I will remove the cars and start again but, before I do, is there I am missing that I should look at to resolve the crashes?

Software
GTAV - Legit download from Rockstar and latest version.
OpenIV - Latest version
ScriptHookV & Scripthooknet - Latest version
HeapAdjuster & Heap Limit Adjuster - Latest version
Gameconfig 1.0.2245 - Latest version (Stock GTA Traffic)
None Redundant Pop cycle
Anti Crash Hotfix

Mods
NVE - Latest version
ENB - Latest version preset that comes with the NVE install (Medium setting)
Real CA Landmarks and Textures - Latest version
Car/Weapon Replacer Folder (EMF)
Real Weapon Sounds
Real Gunplay
Euphoria Rag Doll
Enhanced Gore
More Blood
5 Weapon replacement models
10-12 Replacement cars
8-10 Scripts

(Confirmed that all PC drivers are up to date)

I will post any crash/error logs when get home after work if there are any. I am also in the process of elimination by removing the car mods re stress testing and then will apply one after the other after a successful test. But if there is anything else that I am missing or need to apply .meta and or config file please let me know. I could really use the help.
Thank you!

@JohnFromGWN said in Troubleshooting Issues such as "my addon won't run, my game crashes".:

@JohnFromGWN Another thing I've noticed recently is that there are definitely some "bad" mods out there - either due to poor conversion, outdated, or maybe polygon counts in the millions.

A bad vehicle model can be harder to troubleshoot because it may only crash your system as you spawn other vehicles - rarely when they are spawned alone.

This may be my problem... I'm currently trying to trouble shoot a problematic "mod", a car mod which I'm sure is the culprit of my crashing. I don't want to hijack this thread with the plethora of questions I have but, I will agree with your statement on trouble shooting bad models.

@GoodGuyPog To my knowledge NVE is through his patreon. NVR can be downloaded for free on other sites. I just cant remember where I seen it but if I come across it again Ill post link.

Just my 2 cents to confirm what Theoasterix said. I try to get replace mods but when I can't find the one I want and add on is the only one available I simply open the add on vehicle file in OpenIV and rename/copy the .ytd and .ytf files. I don't sift out where to place the new renamed files though, I simply just place them in the latest patch day/vehicles and all seems to work. As far as handling goes if no .meta available I just go in a tweak them myself. Plenty of tutorials out there. Hope this helps.