These are exactly the kind of posts I need!

@l8ty3187 said in [SCRIPT] [WIP] - Drag Meets 2.0:

First off Eddlm, thanks for the many hours I've spent using/messing with this awesome script.

You're welcome! I'm happy to see people enjoy it.

I did have two suggestions one of which was cars leaving and joining a meet in progress (which you've included in 2.0 anyway).

It's already working in the rework, however needs finetuning. Only broken down cars leave, and "new" cars join because they spawn far away and take time to come to the meet.

The other suggestion would be if meets started at a preset location like e.g a car park where the cars meet up like they do at the start of a normal meet (the car park works like the waiting area in the drag meet within the circle area). The drivers arrive and get out and walk around/do animations (again like in the main meet) the defined area.

If you hang around for long enough the drivers get back into there cars and then drive to the actual drag meet waiting area and then obviously the meet acts the same has it has done in previous versions. I guess each drag meet could have (an optional) initial meet area/car park - then they cruise to the actual meet. Also maybe if the police get involved with one of the cars cruising to the meet maybe that could cancel/disband the cruise meet.

I don't know how easy/difficult it would be to implement but if doable I think it adds a little more realism/life to the whole meet.

It is possible to do, but hard and tedious for me, because it means handling not only the meet but the events before it. I'll see.

@tmvbr said in [SCRIPT] [WIP] - Drag Meets 2.0:

Some suggestions.

Create a better waiting area.

What do you mean?

Increase the intelligence of competitors.

Hard. it's GTA V AI we're dealing with. If you mean they get stuck every time, I'm working on it.

Create a mode just to watch.

Already done in the old and new Drag Meets. Just don't drive your car inside the Waiting Zone.

Create more classes of vehicles besides Country, Gang, Super and Street, with that we could create within meet.xml some exclusive events
Like for example: trucks, low riders, pickups.

Good idea.

Are you working on braking the vehicles?

Yeah, thanks to @JulioNIB && @CamxxCore I've figured a way to force them to brake after finishing.

It could improve the scenarios by using something from the map editor.

I've been avoiding this because of how tedious it would be for me to set up. Regardless, I'll try to have some props around, at least a proper starting and finish line.

Give the option that I can choose who will compete with whom.

You can challenge other drivers already, but can't decide who races against who if you're not participating.

And let me not accept it when I do not want it to be my turn.

Again, don't drive into it. Its fixed anyway, as the next version requires that you actually join the Meet to be picked for the races.

@soner905

what about race against add-on cars?

What about it? Do you have some cars you would like in there? If so give me a list of them, I'll add them.

@Think_Tank Man, keep the requests to requests threads. Or private chat.

I'm trying to have a discussion about Drag Meets here, get suggestions about this mod. Create a request thread or talk me in private, but don't steal the thread for your requests, damn.

@JoeDin2056 Yep, you want Realism Dispatch Enhanced and World of Variety. Go get them.

You're right, there isn't a mod that does it all, but there are multiple mods that specialize in some of the concepts. For example RDE is what you're looking foor regarding police variety and behavior, and World of Variety, while it doesn't touch the cops, adds the general variety you're looking for.

@ReNNie You can, already. Check the description of the scripts' page.
Is not pretty but for now, can be helpful.
@aboodilatif It shouldn't happen in the latest released version, as it gets the mods from the cars themselves, not the vehicle file.
Check the config.ini inside /Scripts/DragMeets, there's an option for this random tuning thing.

2.0

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Official discussion thread about the complete rewrite of Drag Meets I'm currently developing. @mkeezay30 is contributing a lot of ideas for realism and helping in general, too.

Here you have the opportunity to affect the development of it by suggesting new things, so be sure of doing it if you want anything added, removed or changed.

The new (planned) features:

• Improved stability: Meets now load even if some cars can't spawn, be it game error or outdated games which don't have that car.
• More dynamic Meets: Thanks to the new coding, Racers are able to do more stuff. Revving their engine, doing burnouts, betting, even getting kicked out of the Meet. More Racers will be able to join the meet as time passes, too. < The old Drag Meets had all drivers and cars invicible because the coding didn't allow Racers being added or removed to the Meet. The new one does.
• x2, x4, x6, x8 car Drags: Meets will now allow more than two cars racing at once.
• Nitro Boosts: Racers will be able to use nitro boosts during the races.
• Betting: Betting now requires that you actually join the Meet. Other Racers are now able to bet on the participants, and gain/lose mone from it.
• Wheel Temperature: Doing burnouts will actually help you warm up your wheels and give you and edge on the race because of it. Other Racers will be able to do the same.
• More cars: Meets will feature most, if not all cars from the game.
• Smarter opponent picker: The Meet now tries to pick Racers based on their car class performance, making the races more even and thus more exciting.
• Meet Organizer: You'll be able to set up Meets yourself, saving the Meet for later.
• Career Mode: You won't have access to all Meets from the start, and will need to earn respect to access higher-tier Meets. Earning respect basically means having a good win/lose ratio.

Done
Work In Progress
Not even sarted

Here's a little album with some screenshots from development: http://imgur.com/a/Gs2dx
Videos:
General gameplay:

Dynamic Racers: https://puu.sh/tgstQ.webm

Stay tuned, I'll release a little WIP of the script... don't know when.

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Here are some of the features I've been suggested and my opinion/progress on them:

• Parachutes for braking cars: I have to figure out how to do it.
• Racers joining and leaving: Already planned and somewhat done. Needs more work but the basics are done.
• Pre-Meet events/interaction: Probably not going to happen.
• More car classes: Already planned and somewhat done too.
• Allow refusing to participate: Will probably be included, in some way or another
• Better AI parking: Done what I could. Still shit but less than before.
• Add more Racers yourself: WIP, it will be a feature.
• Self Radio as ambient music for the Meets: Done.
• Manual transmission: Not for the player. There's a mod for that. AI will have a simulated system (AKA fake but credible). I'll include an option to disable Racers' boost when doing a good shift so its more fair when using that mod.
• Disable realism options: Yeah, done.

@CamxxCore I need this too. I've missed important comes before because I didn't get notified, no @ mention on the post.

@tmvbr no, its a new option that i've enabled by default, look into DragMeets/config.ini. set force_random_tuning to false and the old cars will return.

It randomizes the cars, doesn't change models. You can keep your drivers.xml and not replace it. Will work.

@tmvbr I've updated the script today, adding faster AI traveling. I'm afraid the rest of the issues will need a complete rewrite of the script, 'cause its a big fat mess codewise, specially because it's old.

All ideas are welcome!

Here are the vehicles from the Imports/Exports update.

They're not perfect and I think the wastelander is the worst result here, clearly i'm not skilled at it. From my tests the thing that had best results is the suspension. No flags changed.

By the way, I've changed all new vehicles AI handling from AVERAGE to SPORTS_CAR so the AI drives them faster, I'm specifically interested in this because of my racing scripts. If you could check the rest of the sport cars for this change, that'd be cool. If not I can do it.

Yeah! Let me finish all new cars and I'll upload their handling here.

First one will be hard, as I know nothing about vehicle flags.

About shorter gears, I'm increasing the number of gears for the new supercars so their gears are shorter, I don't know any other way to shorten them.

Can you tell me of some vehicles you consider finished, so I can see an example of what I am aiming for? The Asea seemed pretty realistic.

And yeah, I'm using ikt's handling editor. I'm actually surprised you haven't used it for Vehicle Handling V, editing then restarting must have been a loooong process.

I'm adding the new vehicles to your mod so I can still enjoy the edits, I'll upload the file somewhere when there's something relevant to show. I'm currently tackling the latest cars, mostly grip & brake reduction, more gears if the vehicle takes too long to change when going straight at the airport, and higher suspension travels.

I would have come sooner but never noticed the thread, damn.

From the latest version of Vehicle Handling V I see that up until Bikers DLC, all vehicles are done? The rest (updates after that one) are the ones that need to be added, right? Just asking to know where to start.

I'm currently trying to improve the new vehicles' handling (Import/Export), but I'm far from an expert editing handling files. I'm using ikt's Realtime Handling Editor.

If you can take time to explain what you usually change in the vehicles, that would be nice.
I'm referring which handling lines and to what purpose.
For example:
<fTractionCurveMax value="2.700000" />
<fTractionCurveMin value="2.550000" />
<fTractionCurveLateral value="22.500000" />
<fTractionSpringDeltaMax value="0.150000" />
<fLowSpeedTractionLossMult value="1.000000" />
<fCamberStiffnesss value="0.000000" />
<fTractionBiasFront value="0.475000" />
<fTractionLossMult value="1.000000" />

Gotten from the Retro Elegy. Could you tell me how they work? I'm working with the first ones to reduce the Retro Elegy's absurd acceleration and turning grip, but as you know, it's really tricky.

@rappo:

@Eddlm Do you think "realism" is appropriate for those cases, too? Or should they be two separate tags?

@enjoythekilling:

I don't think it's right to put the realism tag on mods that changes textures to real life counterparts. I'd prefer a seperate tag for that. From my perspective realism mods are mods that improve on the game and add new realistic features or improve on exiting features.

Actually they're two separate trends among people (make the game look like real life VS make the game behave like real life), so I agree with @enjoythekilling.I'd separate them in two tags, something like "realism" and "real-life counterpart".

Some good examples are mods like Realism Dispatch Enhanced and most (vanilla) vehicle handling mods: their aim is to make the vanilla gameplay more realistic, but they don't add any real life counterpart. Real-Life Texture replacers don't change gameplay, either.

@rappo , I feel the need to ask for a "realism" tag, due to a fair ammount of mods/scripts aiming for that specific feature.

Not getting it, the game allows for vehicle windows to be rolled down and rolled up. Do you people want a different thing to do with them or something?

ROLL_DOWN_WINDOW(Vehicle vehicle, int windowIndex)
ROLL_UP_WINDOW(Vehicle vehicle, int windowIndex)
From http://www.dev-c.com/nativedb/, vehicle section

@Carrythxd @Manworb Here it is, hope it's of your liking. https://www.gta5-mods.com/scripts/singleplayer-kers

Haven't managed to emulate the turbo bar nor the turbo screen effect, sadly. But the functionality is here.

Looks simple enough, I can have it in a few days.

@Manworb All vehicles with EMS engine level 3-4 and all Supercars would have it. That okay?

How does GTA:O KERS work? Never played online.

Is it the thing that saves the engine rotary power when you brake, and allows you to use it as a small turbo when you accelerate again?

When making my first thread, I've noticed these big [SCRIPT] [RELEASED] things before the titles of the threads.

I think it would be better if these tags were redesigned to look like the filters behind the Thread tittle, much like the filters on original mod page.

That way, something like [SCRIPT] [RELEASED] Drag Meets 1.8 would become a lot clearer, like

I think it's much cleaner and easier to read. The tags themselves don't need to retain the filter functionality, although that would be nice to have too.

Doesn't really matter if the tags go before or after the text.

Official discussion thread about the Drag Meets mod.

What the latest update brings to the table:

• Code optimization: I've finetuned some of the code (and script files) to reduce script load and make it less prone to crashes. Nothing big.

• Manual Transmission: Reworked the Gear Changing Ability so it's more realistic and emulates Manual Transmission behavior. Drivers will now benefit from a small temporal boost each time they change gear. The higher their skill, the higher the boost.

• Easier to understand: I've added some dynamic instructions inside the game so it's easier for the players to get how the Meets work and enjoy them fully.

• Less crashing: Reduced the chance of Meets not loading. I've implemented some failsafes in case it keeps happening.

• New Meet: I've added a new Meet on the road to Humane Labs. It's a tricky one, beware of the left lane.

• More cars: I've added some new cars, mostly cars from the latest updates. They're way faster than the old cars, so there's more challenge now.

• Passenger option: Added ability to enter the car you bet on as passenger.

• Redefined car categories: I've redone the car subcategories so the Meets are more coherent. Big meets (the airport ones) only accept Supercars and fast cars in general, and the rest vary between Street cars and Gang/tuned vehicles.

Suggestions and Contributions:
All suggestions are welcome, but keep in mind that I don't have big plans for the mod. Only new Meets and new cars are planned.

You can contribute Meet locations and vehicle designs if you want, that's always needed!

Addon Cars
I plan on supporting Addon Vehicles in future updates. I'll try to support as much car mods as possible, but if you want to make sure certain Addon car of tour choice is going to be supported, let me know.

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Some things I'd like to know about from the people who enjoy this mod:

• How are you enjoying the Drag Meets?
• Do you prefer participating or betting?
• Do you like the new Manual Transmission simulation?

@InYourFace I can't spawn drag meets dynamically, they all need to be configured manually.

I have a pastebin page with all my mods' sourcecode. Hope it's useful to you.

I'm the author of both mods, and both are being reworked. Have patience.