@tmvbr said in [SCRIPT] [WIP] - Drag Meets 2.0:

@Eddlm
Please help me as I could insert all my cars that are in drivers.xml inside racers.xml.

Give me your Drivers.xml and I'll try to update it.

Here is how your Drivers look like. Basically, what you have to do is to make them look like this.
Basically:

• Move <ReactionTime> to the driver's main item as Reaction
• Move <GearChangingAbility>to the driver's main item as Shifting
• Remove the <Colors>and </Colors> items, leaving the colors themselves alone.

One tip, I think the cars will just cool up for the muscles, supercars do not mean they could get sideways.

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@Regash

@Eddlm about the Offroad meet:
I didn't mean it didn't work as an event. I meant it didn't work technically, as the races weren't finished, the AI drivers couldn't get to the starting line by themselves and flipped cars mor than driving them. The idea in itself is awesome.

You're right. It was one of these experimental meets i've been throwing around. You'll see more thrown around the map.

about the number crunching
Like I said before, I have no clue about C# coding or how GTA stuff works. I'm old and stopped when I was able to write a decent BASIC programm. All I can do is serve the info I get from the script, so I think you're doing it right but we're just talking about different numbers. All is cool, mate!

I'm no genius about coding either. And yeah, I agree.

@Regash

Edit: I just realized, right beside Sandy Shore Airfield, there is a new meet for Offroaders. That doesn't work at all!

Lol man, 4x4 races are fun. This is not a simulator, remember that the realism I'm adding is to make things interesting, not actually for realism's sake. Realism's a nice touch, but I won't allow it to limit my fun.

• Although all 4 cars reach the finish line, the race has been aborted.

Cars need to get to a complete still for the race to be considered finished. This causes issues as the player doesn't know this and drives around after finishing, i'll change it.

I took the 50 % from what I saw in the 1.9 Version I tested.
There is +0,5 for warm tires, +0,5 for sport rims/tires and even +1,0 for High end rims/tires.
So using high end and making a burnout took me up to 250 % grip, according to the notification at race start.

GTA V Engine Power Multiplier starts at 1, so 250% is basically a 2,5 multiplier. Its not that much, don't worry. I can make it show up as something lower, like 125%, but can't actually set it to somehting like 1,25 because then there's almost no performance improvement, because how it works ingame.

I'm currently implementing something similar to what mkeezay30 has posted.

@tmvbr

I really like your mod but I think a race with several racers loses the essence of a drag, if I could just continue with the old 1.8, adding only the improved braking and the countdown.

Not all drags will be against multiple races, in fact only a select few will feature more than 2 participants.

Also, almost everything in Drag Meets 2.0 s customizable. You can simply go to the Meets file and set CarsPerRace to 2, and only two cars will participate each time.

@DiMiD777

To do before the race, the competitor's car after some time to spawn before the start. And faced with such a problem, some cars cannot travel to infinity to crash into other cars, once before the race, the rival cut circles ad infinitum. In General, make the opponent spawn before the start if he doesn't come after some time as in version 1.8.

I didn't understand.

But the yellow lines on them can be removed or it will be in the final version?

They will not appear in the final version.

@GogoGTA

1.For me it doesn't crash at all. I played with it for several hours and tested the new editions.

Nice! This is important to know.

2.Sometimes vehicles spawn too close to me/my vehicle or spawn in inconvenient locations (for example in the drag meet in Palmer-Taylor Power Station, the cars spawn really close to each other and/or crashing in eachother. Another example is the meet at LS River, some vehicles spawn in the river and can't come out, sometimes they come out but after a while)

While spawning the Meet manually, or when they spawn automatically?

3.The AI is horrible, I understand it is an alpha so it is acceptable. Here are some of the problems: In the LS River meet racers just drive in circles when they go on the walls of the canal. Sometimes the AI drivers get scared of me wheel spining in the begining of the race and run off. And another one is at the Power Station - The returning racers (from the previous race) get in the way of the next ones.

I expected AI going in circles, but npcs getting scared has never happened to me.

Returning racers getting in the way is something that's currently being worked on. See that "missing PathToWaitingArea" notification in some Meets? When its defined, it fixes this issue.

4.About the exiting a meet, the distance is too long in my opinion, I think it would be better if you can shorten it.

Will be done for the next version.

5.And I tried to star a 4 man drag race and it didn't work. It stated that the drivers can be located and then it disbanded and assebled the meet, so if you know how to set up a 4 man (or more) race please tell me.

How have you tried to do it? Challenging four Racers? If so, that's not how it works. Go to the Meet's xml file and look for a <CarsPerRace>4</CarsPerRace> item. That's what defines how many cars participate at the same time. If the Meet doesn't have that item, just add it under <Drag> .

@Regash

How about this idea, then? Match rim types to car classes!

Why should rim types affect specific car classes and not affect all car?

Something along those lines, you know?

• Making a burnout warming up your tires: Grip get 50 % bonus.
• Having the right type of rims on your car: Grip get 50 % bonus.
• Use custom tires instead of normal: Grip get 50 % bonus.

Maybe that would work out?

Custom Tire bonus will definitely be implemented, but I'm not convinced about the tire-class match bonus.

Also, I experienced no crashes whatsoever, buikdt runs stable for me.

Awesome! No more complaints about crashes in the comments section anymore!

@Akila_Reigns

@Eddlm I don't know why it made you angry, of course I have checked the config file and it says 1,0. I'm sorry but I don't know what to change, when I enter 0,0 or just 0, all vehicles disappear at the beginning of the race, if I change the value to something bigger than 1, the track extends even more.

I haven't explained myself correctly then. My bad.
It works exactly like @Regash says.

I still don't like the idea that you have to use a certain type of rims to get the grip bonus, as not only are those rims f*cking ugly in my opinion, they also look ridicoulus on certain types of cars as well. Just for seeing what I mean, Spawn a Karin Rebel and apply those rims...

You're right. It would also prevent experimenting with different cars in different areas.

I prefer the idea of having each wheeltype to affect performance, but maybe an option to only check for Custom Tires instead of wheel type could satisfy both.
@mkeezay30 What's your opinion on this?

Regarding track length problems, I'll revise them. Its true that I've tried to squeeze as much length as possible in most cases.

By the way, yellow lines are a quick way for me to remember the Meet layout, they're here because of that. If some lines go into the center of the map its because that Meet lacks some of the optional areas.

@Regash

That you can apply parachutes based on rules is quite nice. So maybe EMS upgrade 4 or, if you do it, from a certain PowerModifier. But it's good to know that you can actually choose certain situations to trigger an event.

The whole thing has been rewritten so every Racer is independent, to allow handling them individually.

Yeah, I found out that you made sport and high end rims the trigger for boosting the cars MP. What I meant with reconsidering was to not use the rims but the custom tires instead, as the rubber is the thing in contact to the tarmac, not the rim, which is only there to hold the rubber in place. I know, this would give only one way of boosting instead of two that you have now (0.5 for sports, 1.0 for high end) but it just would make more sense. I know where you're coming from as the tire changes with the type of rim chosen, you have to use Offroad wheels to have offroad tires but in real life, you could pair almost any kind of rim with any kind of tire. Keep in mind, we're talking about three different things here: a rim is the metal centerpiece, the tire is the rubber around that and the wheel is both combined. In the end it is your decision, in my mind the rubber, meaning standard or custom tires, should be the trigger.

In GTA V, the car's wheel type define the rims and tires it uses. High-End wheels use a set of rims, and a specific tire. SUV wheels use another set of rims and a specific tire, etc.

I can make Custom Tires be important for the grip calculation, good idea.

Nope, I don't think that lowered suspension has anything to do with doing wheelies. You can do a wheelie if the force of the engine is strong enough to actually lift the car and the resistance of the tire against the tarmac, called grip, is high enough to withstand the engine force. If the grip is lower, you get spinning tires and a lot of smoke. it is basically a problem of the physics law of leverage. Front wheel driven cars can't do wheelies at all. Look at the image, distance to the ground is no part of it.

I think lower clearance makes the wheelie less likely to happen because of the car's center of mass. High centers of mass allow tipping, lower centers of mass make tipping harder (sideways, backward)

The right lane thing was just an observation, doesn' really matter. I noticed it because I used 1.8 a lot where it was pure coincidence, whch lane you used.

Handling two cars is simpler and 1.8 allowed for that. As now races can hold up to 10 participants at the same time, more organization is needed and I "remove the player from the equation" by picking him first, so he always ends up in the same position. AI Racers do use random lanes, based on when they were picked.

That need of parachutes was basically meant as a joke but since the cars are no longer indestructible, that actually might affect races in Sandy Shores. Now that you mention it, I've seen the LS Airport has a track length of 900. What is that? 900 feet? Meters? I would so love to have a "real" quartermile, meaning 402,336 meters. Depending on what 900 means, it could solve the Sandy Shores issue too. track lengths I've seen in drag racing so far were 1/4 of a mile and 1/8 of a mile.

If that 900 is from the xml file, is obsolete. It was the player's max distance from the Meet at which the game would despawn it.

You can't check a cars fabricant? Hm... But it does work in online game, right? So there should be a way to do it. But this is just nitpicking, the logo is of zero importance.

Haven't found a way yet.

@Akila_Reigns

@Eddlm OK, so I tested the alpha version, it's pretty neat. One question though, how can I reduce track length? Because LS airport track is way too long, even extends to the sea, so all the AI drivers end up dead.

Be sure to check out /scripts/DragMeets/config.ini to finetune the thing to your liking.

@Regash said in [SCRIPT] [WIP] - Drag Meets 2.0:

@Eddlm said in [SCRIPT] [WIP] - Drag Meets 2.0:

You guys really like parachutes on cars

Well, after thinking a bit about that, I realized only high class drag racers use parachutes, meaning Funny Cars or Top Fuelers. (Exceptions confirm the rule! ) Since we don't have cars like that in the game, maybe the use of parachutes should/could be limited to EMS upgrade 4 vehicles only, maybe even with an option in the config.ini.

I can dynamically apply them based on rules, EMS4 and Supercar class, for example.
Or a specific list of cars.

Speaking of the config.ini, I think it is pretty clear and easy to handle, no complaints there from my corner. I'm pretty sure even less experienced users will be able to set the values to their liking. And the option for manual spawning of the meets is just plain AWESOME!

Nice. It will also avoid a lot of issues people had. And will stop occupying everyone's airports lol

The "engine multiplier thing" is something that is available in ENT, yes, I know about it. That is why I thought you could use it to make cars faster, since you were talking about career mode. Starting with a stock buccaneer and in the end having a 2000 HP dragstrip monster, that was what I envisioned when I read about "career mode". Didn't know that you use it to simulate something else. Would it be possible to have a separate PowerMultiplier for each car? Since I don't know how you handle it in your script, maybe you could calculate it from something like a general boost representing the upgrade of the car itself and a smaller value added by tire usage and burnouts, if you get my meaning. Like a normal car with EMS upgrade 4 has PowerMultiplier of x1, you upgraded to x10 already and burnout + tires will ad another x1.5, so the car, after making a burnout now has a PM of x11,5 for that one race only?

You can have a separate multiplier for each car, yeah.
Old Drag Meet aldeady did this the Lost van and one Regina had a big power multiplier to show they were custom.

By the way, in the config file you speak of high end and street tires. Which are considered "street"? In my game there are Bennys 2 different types, high end, sports, tuner, muscle, lowrider, SUV and and offroad rims. (Hope I didn't forget any.) Or are we talking about the actual tires, not the rims? Meaning there are normal tires and these who are called custom tires? It would make more sense if custom tires gave the boost, since the rims are just a hunk of metal, basically. So... Question 4: Is it the type of rims that have an effect on performance or is it the custom tires? (Question answered, see below.)

I meant Sport tires. Its the wheel type what's taken into account.

So the wheelie part of the new script actually prevents cars with high upgrades of suspension to do wheelies? Hmmm... Don't know if that makes any sense. The questions here rather are: a) if the engine has enough power and b) if the tires have enough grip. So a wheelie on a dirt surface is rather impossible as you can't get the tires to stick to the ground and let the engine power lift the body of the car. It should rather depend on engine power (PM and/or EMS upgrade 3 or 4) and grip (warm tires and tire type) rather than suspension. And only on asphalt/tarmac, never on dirt!

Well, lower cars shouldn't be able to lift, by my logic.

EDIT: After a couple of races, I saw some things that I'd like to mention:

• The script always chooses the rightmost lane for the player.

Because it always chooses the player first. Little I can do except some internal magic, which I'll try.

• You're not notified that you have to race and your opponent is not announced.

Its coded but disabled for testing, I was testing 10-wide car racers at the time and the screen got cluttered quickly.

• All spawned cars seem to have primary and secondary color always the same, single colored cars only.

• AI drivers tend to drive in circles when seemingly unable to find a route to the starting line. (I force them out of the circle to make them respawn somewhere else or recalculating their route.)
  GTA AI.
• The stage arrow disappearing when player positioned correctly at the starting line is awesome!

• The grip really depends on using sports or high end rims. Please reconsider!

Reconsider what? Make it depend more on the engine?

• Sandy Shores brake zone is way to short, AI always goes over the edge. We need parachutes!

Check out the Distance Multiplier inside the .ini.

• Named AI drivers like Eddlm or SPECTA seem to have a personhal wallet with money in it. Maybe for player too, so upgrades in form of PowerMultiplier can be bought later?

All drivers have it. That's what they use for betting. Named Drivers will probably get their money saved across sessions.

• When a AI driver is challenged, you get the message "Challenge accepted." Will some of them decline a challenge? And if yes, under what circumstances?

Doubt so. That's there as an excuse to allow players to force certain races.

And now for the infobox that you asked a screenshot for:

• The Vigero is a Declasse, not a Pegassi! Wrong sign! (Just realized Pegassi is shown for every car, so maybe still WiP?)
• Numbers partially hidden, seen worse than this one.
• The first bar has a break in the middle.
• Acceleration bar completely empty for all cars.

Pegassi: I'm trying to find a generic logo to put there. I can't check a car's fabricant.
The break: Bug, they don't update often enough.
Acceleration: was working before, I'll see what happened.

Also, now a couple of errors on startup of a meet:

The red ones warn you about optional, missing info from the race, nothing to worry about. Some Meets don't need that info.

I see the Meet is able to skip cars without crashing, that's nice.

At last: You wrote "Nein" in your last post. Do you happen to be a german like me?

I happen to like the word. But nope, I am from Spain

@Regash

The only error I got so far was the "space between cars" error on setup and I'm pretty sure you are aware of that one, still working on organizing the waiting area.
Maybe a couple less notifications in the final product, when your're leaving a meet, your screen get swamped with "left the meet" messages. Best notification so far: Cheetah left the Meet, reason: driver died

Don't worry, a lot of the notifications you see are debug stuff. The final release will be clean, all of that will go to debug.txt.

I absolutely love the countdown and the fact that a jump start is recognized. Awesome! I've used a Vigero against supercars and was about 1 second slower, which also felt quite right. (Although I still think there should be a way of going from a moddified stock car to a ProModdified, meaning to have a way of pushing the power of (muscle) cars. In real life, there are Camaros with 1000 HP and more. (And, I admit it, I still hate supercars! )

I take it you know the Engine Power Multiplier thing? I can make it so the script takes that into account when picking Racers, but there's a problem with that: Drag Meets uses that attribute to simulate tire grip.

So if you come with a x40PowerMultiplier to the Meet, the game will reduce it to x1 after a race (set to default)
I know you won't use the Tire performance thing, but I have to take every option into account.

You should shorten the digits shown for results. it is displaying a lot of zeros at the end, meaning that there are more digits than being measured. Even professional timers don't go farther than 1/1000 of a second, meaning 3 digits after the comma.

I'm still fighting with C# DateTime/TimeSpan functions to get it right.

The info shown above the car in the waiting area seems a little bugged. Numbers can't be read, they disappear, overlayed by the bar section. The bars seem bugged as well, acceleration not showing anything at all and some others seem to have breaks in them.

Gotta need a screenshot, I read them without issue. Maybe they're too small?

Question 1: I joined the meet with one car, then decided to spawn another one for testing reasons. My character immediately left the car, a random ped spawned and joined the meet with the newly spawned car as my friend. Is that intended behaviour? You are not supposed to change your car at all?

Nein. AI can't change cars either, so it's fair.
I could add a way to leave the Meet and rejoin again.

Question 2: I managed to get some wheelies with my Vigero and the boost I got from that was acceptable, not as exaggerated as in the BurnoutWheelie mod, which is awesome. I restarted the meet with a Nero Custom. I got no wheelies out of that car, so I thought wheelies only worked fpr muscle cars but then an NPC driver in an Adder wheelied right beside me. How do wheelies work now?

The script tries to guess if your car is able to do wheelies by checking the ground clearance it has, but it's not perfect. I need to work on it.

Question 3: How far away from the meet do you have to get to despawn it? I felt like I was already miles away from LS Airport and still got race result messages.

TrackLength*4. I'm going to reduce it to *2 for the next time.
(If I set it too low, Meets will despawn every time you go to the finish line)

Small things that caught my eye:

• One time I got back to waiting area, all drivers stood on the roof of their cars.
• A jumpstart disqualifies the driver but doesn't make the whole race invalid. (Bets on that driver should be considered lost.)

It disqualifies the driver and prevents them gaining any money, but I haven't revoked the bets yet. Will happen.

I really wish I could help you with that cargo parachute. You think you could spawn and despawn them attached to the back end of a car?

@Eddlm What about replacing an existing parachute?

You guys really like parachutes on cars Give me time to work it out.

@Akila_Reigns I doubt I'll be adding models to the game myself, or making Drag Meets depend on people modding their games.

If someone wants to add the model to the game, Drag Meets will support it, though.