@TheMurderousCricket Its just annoying. Honestly, to re-state my opinion stance. I get black text that shows no emotion can confuse others or cause mixed conceptions- Its not anger, its more upsetting and disappointment. What ULTIMATELY grinds my gears is when you point out a small issue and the author turns around and basically tells you get lost, its fine, cbf, its your game. You know the usual excuses. I'd understand if they said, "hey you help me out and fix it" or "I'll do it but I'm busy with life". People rub off others wrongly.

Like before, I fixed some code for a script and so far the author of said script has done nothing (I'm too scared to name names to stir the pot but some may know who I am referring to, and or the mod author might know clearly who they are). At first they didn't believe me that there was an issue UNTIL I sent a picture. They finally said they'd fix it for everyone else (since we're not allowed to upload or even give others the fixed files) and months have passed and I see no new version yet.

Its more of an upsetting thing than an angry thing for me. Like if you had a mod, and I took the time to fix it and I told you "Hey I fixed it, do you want the fixed files?" (whether or not I bug you for credit), I'd say, Hell yeah and I'd give credit to the fix. Would you rather upload a fixed version made by someone else? Especially is you're one of those people who don't have the time? Or keep the busted thing and get hundreds of mentions, complaints, down votes etc.?

That perplexes me. Is it an ego or pride thing? I'd accept any help I could get regardless. Don't understand why some don't. The other smaller thing that just bugged me was that some bugs are so sloppy, it seems like I made you a car, and I just uploaded it straight here without even bothering to test it in GTA V first. And because of this some cars here also brick your game and authors do nothing about it. Know what I'm saying?

Damn seems like you've got your work cut out for you. I misread it before I thought this was similar to an 'overload' error I was reading about the night before. Hows it going now? Encountered any more issues?

@IAmJFry So I have to chill, whilst you and everyone else can keep calling me a prick and taking jabs basically...? I will chill when people suggest decent mods and stop taking jabs at me over my stance on laziness...

I'd understand if I called someone an asshole for disagreeing with me or stole someones mod but all the abuse over my opinion is completely unwarranted.

EDIT: I'm chill now. But I swear if I see another post with someone getting aggro over my opinion. Honestly, I just don't understand what's so aggravating. So back on topic. We got 1 suggestion. JUST ONE. Surely there are some more quality mods/authors you people have found. Ca'mon, bring em' to the limelight!

@TheMurderousCricket Time doesn't mean squat. I work, play games, mod a dozen different PC games and have an outside life. Testing a mod before you upload it to a site takes less than five minutes. These excuses are dumb. What? you make a car and just upload it here? Seriously? Is it that hard to open GTA first?

@IAmJFry So simply asking for who makes good mods and stating I'm sick of lazy crap makes me the hostile douch? You and the other half responding here didn't contribute shit and just came here to be pricks because of what I said. Clearly some of you are total narcissists. I don't have time to read your abuse, either contribute and help or piss off. What am I supposed to say? Thanks guys smiley face for coming here just to abuse me over pointing out laziness? Clearly your the hostile, you just came here to say I'm a hostile douch. I didn't even post my own profanities or argue until people started taking jabs at me you jerk.

@Cyron43 Don't waste your 'breath'. The people here who are against 'lazy modders are lazy' arguments are probably going to be down voting your stuff now just for the fun of it.

@xxx78 for starters Ill assume English is a second language for you as I'm a little confused with what you're trying to say there. I asked for who makes quality mods as I'm sick of downloading broken crap modders claim are perfect yet are totally broken. You on the other hand, come here triggered, or with some other motives in mind just to type your angry defensive responses. I came here thinking you gave me some info, but I came here wasting my time reading your key board hulk smash crap. Don't even bother trying to have the last say as that's all you're trying to do. You said your out, so? Stay out.

@baba0rum same to you pal. Your post is really messy with bad grammar which I assume reflects on your modding capabilities. I mention lazy modders and ask a question. I remind people to test, NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. And you come to have a hissy-fit and say I'm pissing people off. Ok. If you have a problem why'd you come here and post? Go help out some other... Oh wait you cannot even help in a simple forum post question...Unless you have something helpful to contribute, stop wasting my time.

Ok guys Ill go make you all a sick 5/5 completely broken car mod that will brick your games so I expect 5/5 stars and will harass you if you dare point out my bugs. I will export it from ZMod and will upload it straight here. Doubt I'd need to check anything. If it doesn't work, figure it out or fix it yourself. Oh and I wont provide half the files so I guess you can make your own too. Lets see how you like it. Oh and IF you fix it, don't you dare share it, you and everyone else can only have MY broken crap only. -some GTA V modders

I cannot comprehend why mentioning 'lazy modders' has prompted so much abuse and key board smashing... What is wrong with some people here? If the truth hurts then just read it and buzz off. No contribution whatsoever. I just read one relevant post mentioning a good modder and the rest of the posts are just oozing with butt-hurt enraged trolls defending laziness to their deaths, for no reason I assume? Seriously guys... Bunch of clowns...

Just a quick mention since I cannot be bothered reading some of those abusive irrelevant posts. How come, a car with busted windows in ZMod3 comes with the excuse, "my ZMod3 doesn't let me make breakable glass". Yet, almost every tutorial and myself USE ZMOD3 and MAKE breakable windows? Don't give me that rubbish...

UPDATE: I removed the 3 bugged lines from that car spawner script... I see its been a few weeks and its still not updated here... Hmmm... Some of those unbreakble window cop cars are still broken here I see... Should I upload my own fixes...? Oh wait I'm not allowed... Wonder why...

@xxx78 Now now don't skew my good words and use it to bash people. Buying things and the game has nothing to do with this post. Stay on topic by either helping me find people who take pride in their work or discuss lazy modders. Modding FORUMS are for discussion yes, which is what we've been doing. Discussing about lazy vs quality mods. Not bashing people who also agree that lazy people need to just do little checks from time to time...

If you don't want to contribute to helping me (and of course others who would want to know who the best of the best/decent modders are), well, some famous words from Mr Ramsay, "Get out!, Get the #### upstairs!" Don't go all keyboard warrior on people and further side tracking my thread, if you cannot be bothered contributing, don't bother posting in my thread.

Like myself, @Cyron43 and many others before, TEST, TEST, TEEEST, do I have to type it in 100 other languages? T.E.S.T your mods BEFORE you upload! How hard is it?! TEST.

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TEST!!! Do I need to make a video tutorial on "How to test your GTA V mods before you upload for dummies" guide?

Dude, really? Testers? Its a SINGLE CAR 90% of the time! How hard is it for you or I to put it into GTA V BEFORE we upload it here? Honestly I cant tell if some of you are serious or joking about that point. And the other point is, if you find a glitch in my script, especially if you read through it on that github whatever its called and then TELL ME about it, I WILL FIX IT. I've pointed out so many errors, simple lines to delete or typos but once again, nobody cannot be arsed doing a 1minutes fix yet alone PROOF READ THEIR WORK before uploading once again. Like I said, some people here seem to think this is a mod race and churn out too much consistent broken crap just to stay relevant and care more about their egos and popularity rather than produce basic mods with no stupid OBVIOUS rookie mistakes.

I love mods, that's why I bother getting them. To see errors and fix them means I love the mod more than the modder who put no effort into it.

I asked a question and said my piece. You and some of the others replied with objections and basically calling me the moron. So I'm obviously going to make a response or explain why I typed what I typed. You haven't answered my already answered question so why bother trying to stir more arguments?

I said it before and Ill say it again. PROOF READ YOUR SCRIPTS AND CHECK YOUR CARS IN GTA V BEFORE YOU BOTHER UPLOADING IT HERE. Excuses excuses excuses, its all I read... If I can do it, I'm sure these year+ long modders can do the same, if not better. And no, I'm not uploading 'other' people's stuff as although I dislike their sloppy work SOMETIMES, I love it so much that I MAKE THE EFFORT to FIX their stuff so I can enjoy a nice bug free version. Regardless of that I RESPECT the permissions of not redistributing other people's work so no, I am not going to get myself banned uploading other's people work. As for mine? I don't need to prove squat to you nor do I have to give you any of my mods, it has nothing to do with my argument against lazy modders who cannot TEST or FIX their small rookie issues.

Example: Although as I've mentioned this multiple times, YES ZMod does cause some little FIXABLE issues (rarely) but, does ZMod automatically add lines for breakable glass or dirt mapping? NO. THE USER HAS TO PUT THE LINE IN. So, there you go.

I don't understand... Just about everyone uses ZMod and or 3DS MAX... I create mods for Halo and Fallout with 3DS MAX and ZMod for GTA stuff. Its the same crap. Me, admitting I've just entered the GTA V modding scene have learned and had success in very little time. I know how to put in 1 or 2 simple lines of text into a vehicle file within ZMod to make glass break. I can also manipulate shapes on a vehicle model and chop off pieces that are sticking out of my body or unaligned. I'm sure everyone's ZMod is capable of doing the same thing, don't blame the program, blame the user.

Most scripts around here are created within visual studio, so unless you don't know how to code, scripts should, as do some of them here work almost flawlessly. I spotted a mistake in the vehicle addon spawner, 3 or 4 duplicate cars, the author didn't believe me and blamed my install, mods or integrity of my game. I watched YouTube and figured out how to access and edit scripts and BAM! I found multiple HUMAN ERRORS and had to post pictures to prove he/she made a mistake and my game was FINE. To this day, they still haven't updated it for anyone else. I guess they are too lazy to delete 3 or 4 lines of extra text and upload it.

I can provide you with a list of broken scripts, vehicles and peds that are broken, have glitches and even crash your game. I'm not going to argue, once I decided to get more of people's broken junk, fix them, and distribute it elsewhere, then people can get mad at me I guess...

I'm sorry but refusing to do 5 minute quick fixes (and declining help) or blaming users for their own sloppy mistakes, especially when nobody tests their mods before uploading them are in the wrong, period. Pure lazy. I've seen users banned from here just for pointing out issues and getting into fights with authors. Its a bit sad honestly.

@MetaGTA said in Which Modders Produce the Better Quality Mods?:

@GTA-Modding-Noob Your nickname is the best thing that you wrote in this site, that resumes your experience doing mods, correction, "fixing mods". Do your own mods, release them here and you'll to understand few things that now you're attacking and ignore about modding pipeline.

I, like probably millions of others, don't have to upload nor create mods at all if we do not want to. Having an avatar name doesn't really mean anything. I could be GTA Modding God and be trash so...? Would my name really make a difference to you? As I said previously I want to be an example. If I can learn and do something within 10 minutes, there is no excuse for 'GTA Modding Pros' not being able to make or fix little things like broken windows. Say what you want, pure laziness.

Anyway, I'd upload my mods but I've made 3 giant packs with all my GTA stuff (so I don't hit the DLC folder limit) and my packs include other people's stuff obviously and MY FIXED VERSIONS of hundreds of broken stuff that authors wont let me even give to them so...

...I've already given some things to a few hundred of my friends via One Drive who want fixed versions of some of the broken garbage here so at least I'm making some people happy... Now I wont be a petty prick and or copy your, I assume, attempted jabs? But whatever, you've just made 2 ped mods so I bet you cannot even figure out how to do anything related to vehicles such as set up META files, do textures or create/edit models in ZMod so... Right back at ya.

Ill bump this for you so someone familiar with this can see it. From what I've read previously it sounds like a game config issue or maybe there are just too many vehicles for the game to handle.