@KingsixIII GTA IV was a bad port from console to pc and among many went well hated and short lived. Not a massive amount play it anymore because GTA V is out so everyone's in GTA V or in other games.

Heck so many people I know have just gotten sick of GTA V, of online and play completely different games exclusively because people get fed up of the same damn thing, especially the darn micro-transactions.

Also have you seen GTA SA:MP lately? It's still typically 50,000 active players. And people still to this day buy GTA San Andreas to play SA:MP, some because they can't afford PCs to run GTA IV or V on, others because they just like the more nostalgic experience of the 3D era games and it's zero need to be updating and online all of the time.

These things could sure be said for people that don't have an interest in using mods at all, but then when you can make the game your own, such as making it more homely by modding in vehicles, maps and all sorts of things familiar to what you see everyday at home in your country. Do I need to even say how many people like that?

Even just simple things like being a police officer, being a train driver, being a bus driver, a taxi driver, or all sorts. Roleplaying, being animals. Modding in a custom ped that maybe looks a lot like you. Changing the road signs, billboards, vehicle textures. Changing the police lights from red and blue to blues and twos. Using custom sirens. Making the game look nicer.

Not everybody is interested in all of that, maybe none of that, rather completely different things. Mods is about creativity, freedom, choice and making the game your own. Even just improving things that are already in the game as some of those above things are depending which game in the series it is.

If I didn't have mods in ATS, ETS 2 and OMSI 2, I would just have no interest in playing them as much as I do, and I sure wouldn't have the interest in doing videos of them as much as I have. But because I can put custom buses/trucks/trailers/maps in etc, I can well and truly make it my own to be unique to everything I like.

Forza, they have one very simple thing that is absolutely loved by the creative and gaming community, creating designs to your heart's desire and then other people can choose from them. That's the main thing I love about mods in GTA, I can create designs from my favourite graphics editor of choice and put them in the game. Yellow and black buses with Jasja (my wolf logo) and Wolves Travel printed on the body, oh that's my heaven. Yellow and black designed top and hoodie etc with Jasja printed on like my designed tops from my Rage On store page, yes please! Yellow and black police cars with Jasja printed on as a department logo and then printed on "Wolf Trooper", oh that's my jam right there.

Making the whole game feel more like my local area in the UK, therefore British emergency vehicles/peds/sirens, British taxies, Europeon trucks, cars, buses (or at least liveries), British signs, advertisements, maybe even script and map edits to make everything drive on the opposite sides of the roads.

Modding is wonderful and we all have different reasons to. I more so create things instead of playing the game because I love doing creative things and I'm making the game better to me at the same time.

If I couldn't do this I would be gone from GTA years upon years ago. Same with a lot of people.

@KingsixIII said in The end of OpenIV:

@CrazyLegz
modders are one timers. they buy the game and never look back.

Modders have kept GTA 3D era games alive to this day and people still buy them because of the mods.

Same with GTA IV, it would of just gone totally irrelevant 5 or so years ago if there was no modding.

I've always loved the Driver game series, especially Driv3r. If it had a modding community, the Driver games would still be relevant. But no they're not relevant today because they're old games and are just the same old thing without any mods available.

If Take Two and Rockstar used their brains when they did GTA V, they would of made GTA Online a separate exe to GTA V single player because modding on pc is inevitable.

Rockstar and Take Two have every right to protect their game and not allow these things, but dragging us along for 10 years saying they love the creativity of the modding community and then ultimately destroying it whilst still saying they love the creativity of the modding community, it's disgusting.

If you don't love me, damn well tell me, don't drag me along for the ride wasting a chunk of my life that all turns out to be a play along.

And when did everyone buying games only once and not wasting on micro-transactions get classed as not truly an owner of the game so they don't matter? Yes that's Take Two and Rockstar basically saying that, not you exclusively, but still. If they actually released extra content for single player like a map expansion and/or alternate/sequel/prequel story lines like EFLC, you're saying modders are one time buyers so they'd not buy them?

Rockstar and Take Two would make so much money off us modders and single player only folks (remember it's not only modders that exclusively only play single player) if they actually released content for single player.

I'd pay for a big map expansion dlc like Liberty City and/or North Yankton etc. I'd pay for new story line dlc like EFLC even though I'm not much of a storyline person with GTA but I would eventually. Just as I buy map expansion dlcs for Euro Truck Simulator 2, American Truck Simulator.

But then even if I didn't, I still bought the darn original game so to be treated like what I have to say means sod all because I'm just one in 60 million, it's disgusting like as so I just downloaded it illegally. At least SCS listens to their players even one time buyers.

@Jitnaught ok I mixed that up lmao

How much of the around 15,900 negative reviews do you imagine is from today and yesterday lmao. I'm judging at least around 8000 or so

Hang on, that's the number stated for all the reviews in 30 days. Would like to find the total for negative reviews lol

So it'd be around 4500 all the negative reviews that have been done the past two days.

Did 30% of 16000 which gave 4800 but thought 4500 is probably more like it

Hey I'm using @Cass's World of Variety with 5x peds/traffic version of @F7YO's GameConfig. Want to get Bus/Coach/Airbus/Tourbus and Taxi slots to spawn a lot (multiple at a time) whilst every other vehicle in the game is forced to spawn at a variety and not duplicate.

Without editing
<PedVarietyMultiplier value="1.000000" />
<VehicleVarietyMultiplier value="1.000000" /> in the settings.xml, when I change the frequency value in vehicles.meta, I have the city full with buses which I really love a lot as it's really realistic in the sense basing my game off of my local major towns which have buses all over the place, but the traffic is just too duplicated.
But when I do change in the settings.xml that to
<PedVarietyMultiplier value="2.000000" />
<VehicleVarietyMultiplier value="2.000000" />, literally no car at all is duplicated which is amazing, but even setting the frequency value at 100, I can't get vehicles I do want to be able to spawn in duplicate amounts to do so.

Does anyone know how I can do this? I tried changing all other vehicles to a much lower frequency and much lower max spawned at once but didn't quite work lmao. Anyone know any other things to change for certain vehicles to spawn a certain amount and also around places they wouldn't spawn in the stock game?