@Reyser Well once they know the full knowledge of how OIV files work and what can they cause, they can by all means go ahead with it. I'm sure people with that knowledge wouldn't really avoid installing OIV anyway, me also time to time refer to OIV if the amount of files are too much. Someone was made OIV installer of one of the mods of Nik The Greek and I was happy to use it

Sure they can learn it from the hard way too but I merely tried to help people to learn it from the easy way There are some other gta 5 mod sites and I doubt their moderators care about these as much as you guys do. Some still actually cares but I seen many broken mods haven't taken any action despite countless of comments and reports

So like @JohnFromGWN , my comments were made for newbies, although I guess I should have stated this at the beginning to clear any misunderstandings too, my bad there

@JohnFromGWN I hope these can shed some light on people especially the newbies so they won't get their games destroyed

@JohnFromGWN Thank you so much

@Reyser The reason it fails to install is not because of what you think, it is after the delete command since it wiped out the entire game folder, OpenIV can't find the files to copy inside mods folder, thus fails the installation. If you however write the code at the very end the fail error won't show up since the deletion occurs at the very end of the installation. But I'm not talking about installation failures here, I'm talking about how a single line of little code can delete your entire game folder with no warning.

About the "delete" command it has nothing dangerous.

How come something deletes your entire game folder along with all the mods you have installed, all the custom changes you made so far, the changes you spent perhaps years not being dangerous? This is seriously an interesting way you approach to this matter.

The users might have to know of course what they are installing but not everyone can posses the knowledge of analyzing an OIV file, plus even if they look, it is easy to miss the code among the bulk of code blocks... I don't know are the moderators are actually downloading and checking all the mods to it's bytes but even so they are humans after all and can miss small details too, that's perfectly normal for anybody.

Sure the level of danger can't be comparable to QuantV, since unlike how Quant wipes the harddrives OpenIV only wipes the game folder instead, but the danger is still a danger, lesser or greater. I'm sure if someone would have lost even one thing, they wouldn't feel great that they didn't lose their pc entirely Even if you have backed up your game to an external harddrive moments ago, it still surely be bothersome to copy paste over 80 GB files Some people can even cry even if they accidentally deleted the wrong photograph themselves, it's human nature to be sad about something we lose

@Reyser I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to honestly I feel like you are talking about the other topic I made (OpenIV the rpf destroyer) but you said you were saying these by watching my video so I'm actually confused there

But I guess I can explain both of them The rpf destroyer thingy I was talking about, I didn't opened 2 OpenIV programs at the same time. I'm actually aware if there are 2 openiv is open and you do a change, it's causing problems within the rpf or with the rpf itself. So I'm always opening 1 OpenIV at a time while doing edits. The only time I open 2 OpenIV is, if I want to compare 2 files. Sure I can open 2 ytd or ydd in the same OpenIV but when I do that it's causing fps problems on the model viewer. But of course when I do that Edit Mode is always being turned off. So unfortunately I did it right but it still corrupted my update.rpf I was also doing it with manual install, not OIV install way.

In this topic though I wanted to show a problem or vulnerability of how OpenIV designed to handle delete command. It's like a design flaw so to say. and by that what I meant is, if someone with malicous intend wants, they can have OpenIV delete your entire game folder by simply adding a 1 line of very small delete command. It can't be detected by antivirus and is very easy to hide in the code blocks inside assembly.xml .

I know I write a bit too much most of the time so you didn't wish to read all that junk but I think you simply misunderstood or just confused these 2 topics

@JohnFromGWN They seem to have the worst possible security...

They were hacked before and everyone playing online was getting system messages to subscribe to pewdiepie.
Then they got hacked again and my account was stolen along with thousands of others, then they blamed it on me for not using 2FA.....
and now they got hacked again and someone took all these stuff and now leaking them ..

Such imbeciles .. They deserve this shit though, they think like they have a difference from all other game companies and it is somehow ok for them to stay silent for 5 years straight and then share a 1 and a half minute of trailer of gta 6 until a few months left to release.....

Why not share us about the progress here and there without the spoilers? But of course not. and they are saying "Oohhh we are so sad, we are trying to do damage control now.". What kind of damage is that, it's not like someone leaked the most advanced systems info of a nuclear submarine... Just go back to your screens and continue with the game ffs... It's been what? 20 years you milked gta 5 online???

@godWHYme You were just lucky If you haven't deleted your gta 5 entirely, check x64\data\errorcodes and see is there a file called romanian.txt . If there is, the next time you boot your game with quant installed your hard drives will be wiped.

Since you said your game crashed at the first launch, it makes me believe it already wrote the txt file there (assuming it wasn't a normal crash). Although since quant doesn't modify much files, it is very unlikely your game can do a normal ordinary crash.

@JohnFromGWN Of course, from one side it is a good thing especially for practical installers and also newbies too but it also brings many dangers if it is been used by bad people

If there is no manual install is present, extracting the files from OIV and manually installing them one by one is always the safest way. It may take time but at least you will know what you are doing. I would like to also mention that unfortunately doing a search for "delete" keyword in the assmebly can not always guarantee it's safety as any txt file can be put inside a few folders and used as the same name as an original game file, such as can be renamed to gta5.exe which then would overwrite your files with dummy text files... So it is best to avoid OIVs at all cost ..

For scripts same thing too. In my opinion the scripts mods should only allowed if it's open source. I think this is how it is in lspdfr (might be wrong too). or perhaps there should be a message for people when they attempt to download a nonopen source script. It might be easier to said then done but this would allow people a lot more safety as we saw how scripts can also misused as well ..

From what I can see however, the modding started to become more and more risky, and the risk isn't just breaking your game with crashes anymore

So most of you know how OIV installers work, like it can overwrite your own customized files as well, and some of you know the damage it can cause to some extend... But very unfortunately this extend reaches far beyond your imagination.

Apologize for bad voice quality, I didn't want to do this in my main PC just in case so I had only headphones, also a bit sick too

Anyway, please learn the real dangers these installers can cause to you and do your best to avoid using any OIV installers.

OpenIV Team unfortunately awares of this since it is their own coding made possible the "delete" command to function. I was brought it to their attention before when QuantV version 2 was deleted my ENB and ReShade, their response was to investigate it but I guess it is left to be ignored...

I'm hoping this video brings some awareness and they add a warning and secondary confirmation when there is a delete command present in the assembly.xml, doubtful but hope for the best I guess Until then do your best to stay safe from this and please and please don't make me regret I brought this up to people's attention.
I guess it is better to show this so it can reach as many people as it can instead of someone figure this out and silently puts it in the code without major percentage of people knowing it like how it happened in the Quant incident... Anyways stay safe

@AHKEXE1 I don't think so. Doing this in settings.xml is kinda an exploit/glitch type way anyway since game doesn't allow turning off shadows entirely.

Maybe a mod can do it, I don't know any but if inpracticality isn't a problem for you and if you don't mind the weather itself, it is also possible to duplicate a weather for example w_clear.xml , rename it to another weather (prefarably one you don't use, ie: w_snowlight.xml). Then modify the shadow values in there to remove the shadows or making their distance 0. You also need to modify weather.xml as well to make Snow Light weather act like Clear weather.

Once that is done, you can switch to Snow Light when you don't want shadows and switch back to Clear when you want them back again.

@AHKEXE1 You can do it from underrated settings.xml file. (Which you can find in your Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA V)

<ShadowQuality value="0" />

is the value you need If you go to settings later on, it should say undefined in the Shadow Quality tab.