@JohnFromGWN

"In the year or so I've been here I may have rated a mod badly 3 or 4 times max. The last time I did, because the anatomy of a pose was physically impossible my rating was quickly removed without a message to that effect."

We only leave a message when it's strictly necessary and depending on the situation, not before. Sometimes is not necessary and is better to don't leave any. Nothing is black or white in life and that life fact applies to this site moderation aswell.

"The added bonus of giving a low rating, with or without constructive criticism as judged subjectively, is that you will be flamed and insulted by the author, his friends, supporters, and similarly minded individuals."

Whoever insults other users/creators gets moderated no matter what. The rules are there to be respected and the moderators to enforce them and that's what we do.

"The biggest irony is that 5 star ratings are never removed, don't need to be justified. Doesn't make any sense. I think we agree that the 5 rating is abused, it means perfection to or close to that."

Saying that are never removed is completely false. You obviously don't see/notice it but sometimes we do remove them for multiple reasons and which the most common ones usually are that an user used a secondary account to rate his own mod 5 stars or the comment which contains the 5 stars rating is also a rude comment towards other users.

It makes totally sense to don't remove 5 stars ratings even if they don't include constructive feedback. If you rate 5 a mod is because either you like everything on it or whatever you dislike of it is not relevant for you as to rate it lower. For 5 ratings providing constructive feedback is optional because none of us can't know if you liked everything or disliked something unless you say it. The difference between this an lower ratings is that for lower ratings supposedly you have a reason/motivation to provide less than 5 stars. If you don't have a reason to rate it lower, why would you rate it lower or why would you even rate it at all then?

It's common sense and logic, nothing else.

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Lastly, I believe I can talk in name of my other teammates (moderators) in general and some site users when I ask you to please stop criticizing the way ratings and comments are being dealt with on the site by us (and yes, I know you didn't start talking about ratings in here yourself first but that doesn't matter as far as you've continued the discussion). At least don't do it in a topic you did create and that has nothing to do with ratings or comments but mod uploads content quality, etc.

If you want to create a new topic about ratings good but stop derailing your topics to that matter unnecessarily.

Actually the tags system does that function (at least for Android and PC). If you hover your mouse over a mod upload preview image (before opening the mod page on PC) or you finger scroll while on phone you'll be able to see the tags it does contain. We always make sure the tags include the kind of content it is (car, truck, gun, melee, skin, texture, etc) and what does require to work (Menyoo, Map Editor, ScriptHookV, SHVDN, etc). You can see them on the following image:

I don't really think we need to put, once again, the same info in the description when it's available either in the mod title or in the mod tags and is easier to find that way.

@Pqre Unbanned your account but please the next time do not upload stuff like this

It may not sound familiar for you (understandable) but there are trolls/bored people which exactly do this kind of uploads and we, obviously, reject such trash uploads and ban them. Since yours looked like one of them and you didn't have any uploads (as all the accounts which do this) then your account went through the same process even if your intention wasn't to troll

To avoid this from happening, the next time it'd be better if you can post something like "testing before uploading any mods" instead as it'd just look slightly more serious

@truffleshuffle I use Edge and works fine for me. Before I used to use Chrome and the search function was there too. Also (kinda off-topic but still) Edge is Chromium based (like Chrome) so I don't really understand why do you hate one and not the other

Sarcasm is not banned. Still, using sarcasm with fake pics to complain about an supposedly real issue of which you're not providing links of real mod uploads as reference/comparison for us to understand is not a good idea at all. I would never use sarcasm with a tech support, for example. Is obviously counterproductive.
Yes, that's why I obviously said the screenshots were clear fake. What didn't you understand about that? Don't reply, is a rhetorical question and I don't want to discus something so trivial.
I don't abuse my power and I don't look for any reason to ban (as if I had nothing better to do ). If that was the case I'd have been out of the moderator position already not just on 5Mods but in 4 different discord servers aswell. I recommend you to stop saying lies about me, otherwise the ban for sure will happen. I'm getting tired of your "abuse of power" shit.
Yes, a 5 months old thread which I didn't even remember existed. I usually forgot what do I eat in the same day so why would I remember such an old thread? This is stupid and again you're still making assumptions out of nowhere.

Yes, you seem to hate me and yes, I ban people but just those who deserve it. I don't even know why don't I ban you yet. I'm wasting too much time here for NOTHING but getting accused by a random of "abusing my power".

@AlexSam If that was the case, he should've mentioned that the pictures posted are not real mod uploads but examples of what he's trying to say. Or even more, just use some real examples if there's any which needs to be reviewed instead.

There's absolutely no need and is counterproductive to put fake pictures and use sarcasm (supposedly) when you're complaining about a real thing (again, supposedly). No one doing that will get a nice reply because you're not being constructive. Also, saying "Rules and regulations are one thing, but lying and deceiving the community is another matter. Don't bother responding, I can read the terms of service all by myself." does not help.

@JohnFromGWN Wow. I thought you were just an user who disagreed with the way we moderate the site but now I can clearly see it's more than that, you're just a hater at this point and I'll explain this in your own topic to put you in evidence for lying so bad (not to me, to everyone who can see this topic and maybe trusted you).

Note: I've made a copy of this last topic page where your fake pics post is visible among the previous replies just in case you wanted to remove the comment I'm replying to. Here it is: https://imgur.com/g9EEBpa

Okay let's go:
The "-BernieMadoff-" user doesn't exist in the 5Mods site. Can't be found either on the site search/google search. No results show and I could even ask the site admins to check if it ever existed in their database logs. Do you want me to do it? If I do and they tell me it doesn't exist you'll be banned permanently.
In the screenshots posted, the last two include:

- Mod upload title poorly edited to remove some text.
- Same uploader, same downloads count, same file size, same publish date, same likes, same votes and same stars...

If such uploads exist (100% sure don't), why didn't you post the links to them so we all can see them ourselves and not trust your supposed screenshots? I think we're smart enough to see the content ourselves, unless you find yourself smarter than us?

Here the link to the real mod upload which @JohnFromGWN faked:

• https://www.gta5-mods.com/vehicles/2004-honda-civic-type-r-ep3
  Couldn't find the haircut one. I guess it's just an edit taking the second fake pic as base.

I knew you were low, but not so low.

@Banbanme @AlexSam Just a tip as I saw you both upvoted his fake screenshots post before this reply of mine. Always wait for the other part to reply back. Is better to have both sides of the matter before trusting/judging someone.

@JohnFromGWN The next time you make me lose time and lie to the 5Mods users (including me) you'll be banned permanently. I'm not here to waste my free time with bullshit like that.

@Aurora11

"It should have been in the site rules to use the screenshots from the game itself....why it is allowed to upload the mod screenshots from another game is allowed?"

Well:

"Your uploads main image must be an in-game screenshot (mandatory) or otherwise representative image (if in-game screenshots are not possible because of the mod nature) of your upload."

From the rules topic. Sometimes is better to don't make assumptions, specially when the rules you're pointing to are very clear about the matter you're talking about. Screenshots from other games (for ports/conversion mods mainly) are not OK unless they're not the main and majority of the preview pics. 1, 2 or even 3 extra pics from other games/irl for comparison purposes are ok but complying with what I've said before and with the site rules.

@Niziul Random Forums site bug happening for years already. Nothing we can do to fix sadly since the devs couldn't find the cause of it

@JohnFromGWN Wish I could confirm what you just said to make you happy but I wouldn't be honest so I'm not gonna do it. Here the reasons:

• "Total bullshit. You removed the comment for personal reasons. You were just waiting for the opportunity."
  First, I don't even remember who are you. If we had any interactions in the past (could be, idk) there's not any staff note in your user profile from me so who cares. Second, I never moderate for personal reasons. If there's someone with which I prefer to don't interact I just leave a different moderator deal with it. This should be enough proof for you to understand that no, the rating wasn't removed for any "personal reasons" (which? lol) and I don't like to waste my time "waiting for the opportunity" to bother you? Hell I have much better things to do during my free time than caring about a random site user.
• "You constantly abuse your admin powers" Oh yeah, of course! I do love my admin powers when I'm not an even an admin, don't have admin powers and instead of just removing your topic for saying nonsense against me I did reply to you explaining why none of your absurd accusations make sense (something I wouldn't even bother doing but heh, here I am trying to abuse my admin powers again ) and how do we moderate following the site rules. HOW DARE I?!?!?

To finish:
For me you're in the same category as any person I didn't meet in real life, an unknown one. This means I don't like/dislike you by default. I didn't even consider it. Don't feel so important, you're not (or maybe you do somewhere else but not for me and not here).

I believe this topic is not going to be productive for anyone so I'll close it unless someone wants to contribute with something related to the main topic (mods quality, etc) and not @JohnFromGWN's personal opinion about me? (If not, will be closed in 2 days).